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Hurricane Katrina reconstruction:

New to the forum but wanted to see if anyone wanted to help out. When this bid was handed to me it called for 24 par56 cans, N5000 dimmers, and a 7024 lighting controller. I think the total amount was around $8k installed.

Standard exposed wood vaulted/cathedral ceiling sanctuary. (so truss and a couple dozen pars would not be the route I'd go) Hence this post.

Pic is from back wall of sanctuary.


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Magnolia Music Center - A.V.I.S. division
Gulfport, MS - Ocean Springs, MS - Pascagoula, MS
http://www.AudioVideoInstallService.com
http://www.MagnoliaMusicCenter.com


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Church is traditional for the most part so I'm not looking at tons of moving heads, strobes, or such.

Client needs to feature the pulpit (front center of riser), band will grow over time and will be spaced stage left and stage right. Choir of course goes on the risers (steps) center/rear.

Two 3500 lumens projectors will be mounted facing the angled upper walls on the left and right. (portion of upper wall with only 1 stud showing) Fixed screen will pretty much take up every bit of that opening between the beams.

Stage is 42' wide and 20' deep.
27' from stage to peak of roof.
13.5' from stage to beam at far left and far right of stage.


Multitude Audio & Video
Magnolia Music Center - A.V.I.S. division
Gulfport, MS - Ocean Springs, MS - Pascagoula, MS
http://www.AudioVideoInstallService.com
http://www.MagnoliaMusicCenter.com
 
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you need advice on lights? or do you have that planned out already? i got nothing for mounting. perhaps ibeam truss?


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This is a view across the stage.

The choir is about 3' behind the overhead beam.

The pulpit is around 7' behind the next beam.

No electrical has been run but I'm tempted to just have them pull me 2 legs of power up each beam with outlets every 6-10'.

If I can go LED then their will be little draw on this at the breaker box.

Overhead choir mics are coming down and being replaced with Audix microboom mics.

Florescent fixtures and flood lamps are coming down too.

Angled studded wall on top right is where one of the projector's fixed screens will go. Projector will mount approx. 4-5' down from the beam above.


Multitude Audio & Video
Magnolia Music Center - A.V.I.S. division
Gulfport, MS - Ocean Springs, MS - Pascagoula, MS
http://www.AudioVideoInstallService.com
http://www.MagnoliaMusicCenter.com


 
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Well one thing you could do if you wanted to be sneaky is get the stage color led cans. or check out the Design LED series stuff. i like the DLED head. i assume controller is again 1024EC Compu Live?


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quote:
Originally posted by jingles:
you need advice on lights? or do you have that planned out already? i got nothing for mounting. perhaps ibeam truss?


Due to the budget constraints on this system I'm at a loss fixture wise.
Whether I can do this with some strategically placed Pars (and have them add on more as the choir and band grow) and some LED wall wash fixtures. I'm just not sure.


Multitude Audio & Video
Magnolia Music Center - A.V.I.S. division
Gulfport, MS - Ocean Springs, MS - Pascagoula, MS
http://www.AudioVideoInstallService.com
http://www.MagnoliaMusicCenter.com
 
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quote:
Originally posted by jingles:
Well one thing you could do if you wanted to be sneaky is get the stage color led cans. or check out the Design LED series stuff. i like the DLED head. i assume controller is again 1024EC Compu Live?



This one?
http://www.elationlighting.com/product.asp?ProductIDNum...9&cat=LED%20Lighting


Multitude Audio & Video
Magnolia Music Center - A.V.I.S. division
Gulfport, MS - Ocean Springs, MS - Pascagoula, MS
http://www.AudioVideoInstallService.com
http://www.MagnoliaMusicCenter.com
 
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YEP. you can try some ADJ LED wash fixtures. ADJ is a sister company of ours. but you probably know that.


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Look at these
http://www.americandj.com/product.asp?ProductIDNumber=1650&cat=L.E.D.


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YES!

There is a store down the highway from one of ours (we currently have three stores) that caters to DJs and home theater which carries AMdj gear.
His showroom is really too bright to showcase the LED fixtures- but I only stepped in for a few minutes last week.. First time since Katrina flooded him out.

I gotta get Tony to speed up becoming an Elation dealer!


Multitude Audio & Video
Magnolia Music Center - A.V.I.S. division
Gulfport, MS - Ocean Springs, MS - Pascagoula, MS
http://www.AudioVideoInstallService.com
http://www.MagnoliaMusicCenter.com
 
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All of the shots I took at the Church last week:
http://www.rainontheinternet.com/Emanuel%20Baptist/


Multitude Audio & Video
Magnolia Music Center - A.V.I.S. division
Gulfport, MS - Ocean Springs, MS - Pascagoula, MS
http://www.AudioVideoInstallService.com
http://www.MagnoliaMusicCenter.com
 
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you know you might just have to screw or bolt these lights into the beams. if i get bored later i can write out a recommended product spec aheet for ya. lol with links. sincerely,


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quote:
Originally posted by jingles:
you know you might just have to screw or bolt these lights into the beams. if i get bored later i can write out a recommended product spec aheet for ya. lol with links. sincerely,


Excellent!- see you are a night owl too

Yes, I was leaning towards putting a dark steel plate on the congregation side and bolting clean thru the beams for heavier lights.
And lag bolts for any feather weight ones.

Of course I always have a supply of closed eye bolts and aircraft wire if anything doesn't ship with a safety cable.

Placement seems wide open at the time -
Key lights 45 out and 45 up (as close to the standard as possible) for the pulpit. One per side to start.
Hate to go TOO high with anything that might require aiming or adjusting. We will use an articulating boom lift to install these but will try to mount everything within reach of a ladder for future church maintenance.

Wondering if some of the wash fixtures would give a general stage wash from above the choir.


Multitude Audio & Video
Magnolia Music Center - A.V.I.S. division
Gulfport, MS - Ocean Springs, MS - Pascagoula, MS
http://www.AudioVideoInstallService.com
http://www.MagnoliaMusicCenter.com
 
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Yup i am a night owl. tell you what i can make 3D representations of both of these stages to kind of give you a peak at what it might look like. but i will need height width and depth dimensions of both stages. i can get started on the other stage as it is completed and post pics. i can start doin this sometime tomorrow. it will take a little while but i like to do it! also you will need to make sure you pick LED lights that have enough lumen output so that way they dont wash out before they reach their target. sincerely,


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Are you willing to hang truss/pipe or are you looking to hide more of the fixtures/go more low profile and follow the contour of the roof?
 
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