Midi control on SD2...

checking into this..

When you select a scene, the SD2 sends a MIDI command out the MIDI out connector. You can record that. When you play what you recorded back into the MIDI in, the same scene will be called.

From the manual:
Show Designer 2 allows you to use MIDI to call scenes using a MIDI sequencer so that you can synchronize lighting to a MIDI performance. The scene page and number is encoded in a MIDI message that is sent to the Show Designer’s MIDI output when a scene is selected using the number switches or the “go” switch. The “black” switch also sends a MIDI message allowing you to record a blackout or blackout restore. When that same MIDI message is returned to the MIDI input, that scene will be called. Since the Show Designer 2 uses its own type of MIDI message to record scene changes it is recommended that you use the Show Designer 2 to record the performance.

Hi John,

Thanks for the reply! Yes, I knew that the SD2 send midi message out for scenes, black or go, but Do you have by a chance those values? I've read some stuff about SD1, but found nothing about SD2 midi values etc... I don't have here any midi analyser or something like that... So if you have anything that could help me, it would be very appreciated!!!

Thanks
Vincent

Hi Vince.. I'm working on more info for you.. here is what I have now.
Let me know if it makes any sense?

The Show Designer 2 uses MIDI continuous controller messages to send and receive scene changes and blackouts.

The message format for scene changes is as follows:

0Bxh pp nn, where x is the MIDI channel (0-15 decimal), pp is the scene page (0-98 decimal) and nn is the scene number (0-47 decimal).

The message format for blackouts is as follows:

0Bxh nn vv, where x is the MIDI channel (0-15 decimal), nn equals 99 decimal and vv is non zero for blackout on and zero for blackout off.

Thanks John...

well it seems to be quite complicated!!! Here is my situation :
We are a band, and I'm the bass player in it. I want to create scenes and shows that will run for every song. I have to be able to trigger to "go" button to have the next step in the show as the song continue.... I want to call the black button also... It's pretty much want I want to do...

Do you know if there is any other solution with SD2, or you can suggest other controller/footswitch???

I will try to configure the pedal to send thos message... but I think it's gonna be painful!!!!

Thanks
Vincent

cool.. I'll figure it out..
I know its possible.

John,

If you have by a chance also the value for the "go" switch... I've been playing around with that FCB1010 midi footwitch, and it's kinda nightmare!!!!

Thanks for everything!!!
Vincent

I'm working on it.
The funny thing is this console works diferently on midi than our other consoles.

The others are straight forwared.. scene 1 = note 1 and so forth, you just need to set the ch.
But the SD2 works differently and so they are working on that for me.
Most likely I'll have an answer for you in the AM.

Hi John,

Ok, So now it's working, I can call scenes with my pedalboard... I just miss the Go button midi assignation...

It's a lot of work, but with the correct data, it's working!!!

Thanks
Vincent

Hi John,

Do you have any news about the "go" button midi value??

Thanks
Vincent

nope.. working on it.

Hi Vince,

We concluded that the "Go" button cannot be triggered.
Since show's can't be triggered, the "go" button doesn't have a purpose.
Midi will only activate scenes.

Hi John,

Thanks for all your support!!!

So you say that with that console( At that price...2500$$$) I cannot trigger "go" button to have my shows run... It would be something quite easy to put in your software...

So the only way to have different scenes within a song, is to call thos different scenes with my pedal board. So for me, I will have to play around on my pedal board while playing bass... That's not really good for me!! I tought that I would have to build a show for every songs, and just hit the go button to change scenes as the song go...

Well, I'm a bit dissapointed of the SD2...

Can you tell me if there is any other solution?? I think that maybe the Compu 1024 or 2048 would be good with a Midi I/O module??

Also, just a question... Is it possible for you to have a software patch that enable that "go" button midi assignation??

Thanks
Vincent

Well, its not that it can't, it just can't do it with a simple midi notes.
The SD2 actually send and receives MIDI signals.
So if you were using a software like cake walk you can use the SD2 to transpose MIDI signals on the software, then have the software play them back.
In this instance shows, scenes, go and back work great.
However in the instance of a simple foot pedal or key board, only the scenes are accesable. Shows are not accesable through a midi foot pedal, which would make the "go" button obsolete.

Hi John,

Well, The SD2 is already on it's way back to the store!! Unfortunatly, I think this console is a REALLY good console when you have a body behind it... But for our situation, I really think that the compu 1024 will do the job!! Actually, it's already order in replacement of the SD2... and with the price difference, we bought 2 more scans(intimidator 1) and probably few more par cans...

So prepare yourself as I will have a lot of questions on compu live... I already downloaded it and i've played with it for an hour or two... it's a bit different than thw DMX console...

BTW, do you have good hints on compu live that can save me some time ;-)

Thanks John for all your answers!!! It's really appreciated!!!

Vincent

any compu live questions can be answered by me either on here or u can call tech support and they wil put you through to my line. sincerely,

Hi Vince, I'm glad you were able to switch it out for what your really need..
That's why their is so many consoles out there, everyone has different needs.
Either way i'm here, or we just hired Jingles on as our main Compu Guru!

Were here for you.

Best regards,