lol its like that jingles? shoot i didnt know u could do that!! got your boss involved and everything hahah but thanks a lot for your help man i hope it works out and hopefully it makes everyones life easy... i feel like a real jack ass when the lights are all turned down or off and ur follow sopt dont work as it suppose to every one looks at u like wat the hell r you doing lol serious pressure i tell you... i am scared to offer this service to a client... as the introduction time comes around i start sweating and all dont wanna f up their once in a lil time moment u know (thats assuming they wont get divorced) its crazy... lol