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Re: Hey Guys!!! I'm Back . . . again

tylerherron ·
Hey John, James told me to tell about this. It is a quick story that I experience on tour. Our lighting guy is 16 (yes they put a 15 and 16 year old in charge of all that equipment, scary huh?) He really isn't a lighting guy he just knows how to run the software. He really just wants to play in a band. Anyways for awhile I have been learning from him, but now it is different. Since I've been on these forums as well as the ADJ forums I have learned ALOT. Well at one of our shows we had the...
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Re: Magic 260 Issues

colorpalv10 ·
Surpized? Ha, auto correct will probably start to fail after 20+ hours of the light being outside. The auto correct sensor will start to fail with even the slightest-bit of humminity. It will be a tease too, if you pull the lights inside overnight, auto correct might start to work for awhile and as soon as you put them back up outside... failure. Always leave auto correct off. Good Call GFuller. -B
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Re: Magic 260 Issues

elationpro ·
Hey guys, when you talk about auto correct, are you reffering to position correction? the feature that brings the light back to original position? If so let me know, I've never heard of such an issue from being used outside or with a specific lighting console. Doesn't make sense to me. From serra's original post if it works fine with a 16 channel generic and not with the profile, I will point to the profile for the problem. let me know
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Re: Magic 260 Issues

colorpalv10 ·
Lopez, Don't know how much field experiance you have had with elation lights but yes, we are referring to position correction. The little sensor that elation uses for all of its position correction... moving heads position correction, gobo homing, color homing, proton color wheel homing...fail from high humitity. Most elation users that are 5 or less miles from the ocean will be extremely effected. Especailly if there is no outdoor housing for the light. The salty air will destroy the sensor...
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Re: Lighting Newbie

tylerherron ·
Welcome to the forums! For the dimmer packs, whatever address you set it to (129 for your example) tells you all the address for each light. light one will be 129 and light 2 will be 130, 4 - 131, 5 - 132. so just use the faders (channels 129 - 132) to turn on the par cans. Make Sense? For the ADJ Accu Spot 250 II's, I'm not entirely sure how to do what your thinking but what I would suggest is to set some scenes and just recall your scenes. Set the first light to the left of the runway and...
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Re: Lighting Newbie

Jingles8302 ·
jpal welcome! and merry christmas. you could also try setting the light in the right on reverse pan and tilt. it should be either a feature on the op pro or you can do it on the lights in the system menu aswell. and the par cans was pretty well explained by jthtiger so i will leave it at that. if there is anything you dont understand or need further explaining let us know. peace! sincerely,
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Re: Lighting Newbie

jpal ·
I assigned the dimmer pack to A129 as stated in the manual. then i set the dimmer pack to work for only 2 channels. then i plugged in a par can light to channel 1 and another par can light into channel 2. as you said, the console should make the channel 2 light work on the next fader which is 130. but that's not whats happening. Fader 129 is turning on both of the lights, and fader 130 doesn't do anything. I know the next thing u guys might say is check what outlet im plugging the par can...
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Re: Lighting Newbie

tylerherron ·
@JPal Congrats on getting you accu spots working. now for the dimmer pack. This particular pack has 3 modes (as you already know) 1 channel, 2 channel, and 4 channel. Here is how they work: 1 Channel This setting allows all the lights plugged into the pack to be turned on/off using one channel. Meaning that if you set your pack to 1 channel mode and the address is at A129, when you turn on that fader all the lights will come on. 2 Channel This setting allows the four channels to be turned on...
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Re: Lighting Newbie

elationpro ·
Hi Jpal, That's what the guys were trying to explain to you. Your controller does not have pre generated movements. The feature you are asking about is only found in the Showdesigner series controllers and Compu live software. In your situation you will need to record multiple scenes. for example, if you want a circle on the wall or cieling. you need to position the light in one spot..then record that position into a scene, you then follow the same process till you have made about 4 - 8...
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Re: A couple of questions about design spot functions

stevelynch ·
Okay... I know how to program scenes and such, It was just that the design spot is my only light that resets when you switch parameters.. My accu scans and accu spots never did this... I'll get with James! Thanks!
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Re: Magic 260 Issues

elationpro ·
Hold on a minute here!!! If you're not having an issue with a hog 1000 or IPC, then it cannot be the light fixture, auto correction or anything on the light. It has to be with the controller and personalities. I will have this looked into on our side. Best regards,
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Re: Show Designer 3 manual question

elationpro ·
You want to record presets.. Page 18 of the manual. I am not finding missing letters in the manual.. can you let me know what pages? <b>CREATING AND RECORDING PRESETS</b> Before recording a preset you must first do some preparation. In order to be able to view certain moving light channels like color or gobo you will first need to raise the dimmer levels and set the pan and tilt positions in order to see the color or gobo selections. Do this by selecting the fixture or fixtures...
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Re: Need .SSL file American DJ Revo III

stevelynch ·
Hey guys, any luck with the revoIII .ssl file? I've made 2 files, and cannot get them to work in any mode other than sound active... I'd like to be able to install this light tonight... I'll use sound mode if I have to, But I thought it would be cool to be able to have DMX control. I noticed no one has responded to this ssl request... does that mean It ain't happenin? I appreciate any help I can get... -Steve
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Re: Need .SSL file American DJ Revo III

stevelynch ·
my point exactly, American DJ's own light confuses them, and the elation guys....... how am I supposed to figure it out? I guess I'm just as lost as you.. sergio at American DJ said he handed this off to you guys a couple days ago... sorry I can't be of any help....
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Re: Need .SSL file American DJ Revo III

stevelynch ·
If I go into edit, it does in fact move things around, but once again, it doesn't really control the light... I only get three different patterns, and they don't chase or anything.. I mean there's some cool patterns in sound mode, but there's also some lame ones... it would be nice to have an actual fixture file for this light instead of half assing it through console.. the sliders on the fixture file do change the values in the output window, which would in a perfect world make the light...
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Re: Need .SSL file American DJ Revo III

stevelynch ·
No Biggie dude, I appreciate you trying... It's hard to build a fixture without a light... I'm constantly making files for people for scanners and movers, but these new LED fixtures with no pan, no tilt, and no RGB color mixing screw me up... I mean, what channels do you use? The compuware software needs to have new channel types added for modes, chases, and internal programs... Here's hoping That yall' can pull off a file for your software that works with your light... That would be cool!
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Re: Stage Pak 1 how to set up?

tylerherron ·
Oh man I can't tell you how much I laughed at that! Ok anyways, DMX, it really is a cool thing. Here are some basics. DMX stands for D igital M ultiple X . It is a way for each and every (DMX Compatible ) light, made by any manufacturer, to interact with an universal DMX controller. In a standard DMX protocol (called 512-DMX protocol) there are a total of 512 "channels" In order to get your lights to interact with the controller, you must address them. There are 2 ways (that I know of) that...
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Re: Octopod 80 Elation Policy be warned

ben ·
January 2007 was the complete lightning installed in Dania Beach where my restaurant brandnew was becoming ready. The choice of the system was basically done by the professionals as the installer Sound & Lightning Ft. Lauderdale and his order to elation company. I only have had a fix amount for every thing which was paid after finishing the job. Couple of months later some of the lamps got discolered and I complaint. I was asured that they will be switching the plates and so were 6 of...
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Re: OPTI 30 RGB

serraava ·
Problem is jingles that your middle men don't do their job real well. I can tell you I ordered a PS575, within one month, the lens in the front had fallen out, and the dimmer didn't work. It also had a few other issues. They sent my advanced replacement out late, despite saying it would be there a certain day, and because it that, it hurt a show I was doing and lost money on it. About 6 months later, I ordered 2 PS575IEs. One light, 2nd show I used it for, about 3 weeks old and under 50...
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Re: Riva 80

rain ·
Hey James - Yes, considering laptop or desktop computer for each Church this time around for ease of programming. Neither facility has ever used more than a light switch and a dimmer, so I hope by them NOT having experience, that the software is the easier route to go. The church in the pic above wants key light/features on the pulpit mainly. Then they want to be able to feature the orchestra pit (drums,bass,guitar - keyboard,piano - choir) Praise singers are just infront of the band. For...
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Re: Riva 80

rain ·
Think it was you who posted these: http://www.alia.com.au/links/dmx-faq.htm#3 http://www.dmx512.com/web/light/dmx512/index.htm
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Re: snow machine

serraava ·
As a lighting guy, I must state my strong loathing of snow drops. The stuff gets everywhere, and it gets on the lights, which it melts to. It then makes a nice burning plastic smell each time you turn them. It also looks horrible on the lights, and never comes off without damaging the paint job, light, etc. Other issues with it, you must sweep the stuff up vs it dissolving into nothing. It can also get into other things, like lines for travelers, caught in the air and then fall at random...
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Re: black lights

serraava ·
Not 100% true jingles, you can dim fluorescents with a Sine Wave dimmer, which are very expensive. All light sources emit UV. Nothing has the same effect as fluorescents because fluorescents output a lot of UV do to design. So much so that they are used to sterilize things. All fluorescents have a coating to block UV so it doesn't hurt anyone. Black light fluorescents don't have as strong a coating, allowing save levels of UV out. They are also colored purple because UV has no color...
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Re: black lights

pacman ·
We have controlled fluorescents with our lighting system by simply changing the dimmer to non-dim mode (it comes on full when the channel is at 50% or more - like a light switch). Would this work in your situation?
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Re: black lights

serraava ·
You can damage your dimmer and/or the light that way, so I would not recommend it.
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Re: black lights

pacman ·
How would this damage the dimmer or the light? We have a neon light on one of our dimmer channels (new ETC rack) and the technician didn't have any problem setting up non-dim channels, plus the dimmers actually have a fluorescent setting on them that does the same thing. For the light, what does it care if the power is "switched on"?
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Re: black lights

serraava ·
Continuing on now: The buzzing noise is known as lamp sing, it's caused by the power being turned on and off really fast. The way this is fixed is more expensive dimmers have what is known as a choke after the SCR so the power change is as dramatic as on/off. The better the quality of dimmer, the less lamp sing you will get. Now why non-dim isn't really non-dim. Despite you setting a dimmer to non dim, either via the pack or the console, the power still passes through the SCR and choke. So,...
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Re: black lights

pacman ·
Thanks SerraAva for taking the time to explain this. I guess we have been lucky the few times we have used fluorescents on our dimmers. Our neon light continues to function well without use of a special dimmer (and it is 12 years old now), but we are looking to replace it soon with some LED lighting so we can get rid of the high voltage transformer which causes noise on any electric guitars that get too close.
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Re: problems with power spot 575?

elationpro ·
Hi Danny, You need to pull out the user manual for the light. The fixture it self has settings..so to turn the lamp on as soon as power comes on is a feature called "Lamp on Automatically" The one fixture has this feature off, so you need to turn it on. Another feature is lamp on off by DMX.. its a feature that needs to be turned on. when this feature is turned on your Light Jockey button should work if its configured correctly best regards
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Re: Design Spot 250 PAN Problem, Help!!

elationpro ·
Hi guys.. I checked with the service department and they told me it could possibly be a lose sensor connector. The light should work fine in any position. So I would recommend making sure all the connectors are securely fitted on the PC boards.
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Re: basic console programing

serraava ·
Out of order isn't as much a problem on cue lists as one may think. As long as you label stuff and are fast, the 'Go to' button is your best friend. I did a dance concert last year with about 500 cues, and it went in a different order each night. So I named each scene and programed in blocks. Like scene one was cues 10 thru 19 with 19 being the blackout, allowing me to record pre-load cues from 19.1-19.9. Worked well. It also gave each number a block of cues that lined up numerically cue...
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Re: Pre recorded shows

serraava ·
Generally pre-programing refers to patching the console and setting up a few basic cues, effects, chases, scenes, submasters, and/or palettes depending on your console. This is generally done with off-line editors. Just about all my shows are pre-programed in this fashion, so I simply have to load the show from disk or USB drive and start the fun programing. It is a great time saver. The type of pre-programing islanddj is talking about is done with virtualization software, like Elation's...
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Re: Request for basic newbie info...

manford ·
Update! I have come up with a hardwired (literally) solution to the issue with fade time deactivation. I'll try to explain as clearly as I can, and apologize ahead of time if I lose anyone along the way. I'm using the Behringer FCB1010 to control the Operator 192 via MIDI. What I forgot about the 1010, is the ability to use the 2 built in "Switches" to control analog functions of amplifiers, just like a traditional stomp box that controls reverb/clean channel functions, etc. These are simple...
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Re: Scene Setter 48 issues, less than 1 year

worldcreator ·
Thanks for your suggestion but that controller does not provide the same type of functionality as the SS48. I need to have easy access to multiple faders, like 48 or more. The show I run has alot of improv and things can change quickly. Having access to many faders and bumps are essential. Besides, from what I can see about the Operator 192 (from a Google search) it's more of an intelligent light controller. This rig is all conventionals.
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Re: need help urgent

abhi ·
sorry elation i cant get on line.....i found some personality from net and i try to lod it it is showing NO FILE FOUND ..and the light i am using for our show is coustum made and they have only 2 and 9 chanels and i am new with SHOW DESIGNER 3 And in this forum also thanks for u r message hope some one can help me
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Re: need help urgent

elationpro ·
Abhi, Don't sweat it. you don't need a personality.. especially if you don't know what light you have. use 32 DMX channel fixture. It will give you 32 channels to use, but you only need to use 2 of them on 1 fixture and 9 channels on the other. From this point all you need to do is modify the fixture, and say it only uses 2 channels or 9 channels.. and you can rename the fixture to the name of the fixture you actually have. This is the best way for you buddy, Best regards,
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Re: General uplighting for sanctuary - suggestions?

Jingles8302 ·
are you looking for a wash type light? and i understand your throwing them 10-12 feet? if u want im on my usual instant messenger servies. hit me up lol.
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Re: General uplighting for sanctuary - suggestions?

rain ·
I can't. Im at the tire shop putting new ones on the work van. Just happened to have the store laptop with me and an ethernet cable. Otherwise I'd be stuck watching Christy Yamagoochie on the only TV station they get in this place. HAHAHA! But yes, seems the 2 options are either a low profile up-light from the crown molding along the sides, (traditionally churches put florescent bulbs here), or some sort of tiny can(or long thin) fixture on each beam washing down on the congregation.
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Re: General uplighting for sanctuary - suggestions?

rain ·
Those might be out of their price range but think im on the right track. I think once they compare the fixture price and ease of installation of the DLED12brick to having an electrician come in and pull wire for conventional down lights, the LED fixtures may win out. FWIW, they dont need color changing or strobes - just a general white light on the congregation. 12brick come as a WHITE yet?
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Re: DMX Duo

lightech ·
Not to rob Jingles of business, but I think it would be beneficial for you to just buy a small DMX controller that will allow YOU to program your own scenes and chases. For one, you will learn a lot about DMX lighting and how to accomplish many different things. Plus, you will be able to modify, remove, and add to your current banks of scenes and chases without having to rely on someone else providing designs for you. You will then know how it all works inside and out, plus have the...
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Re: Is there a 250 spot that will mix color like this?

elationpro ·
bdunard, Yes, a wash will be about from 40 brighter than a spot. You have a lot more light being projected along a bigger beam of light. However, that's all a wash fixture does.. color change.. but the beam of light it projects is impressive. Most rigs require a 1 to 1 ratio where you have 1 wash to every spot. So if you have 8 Spots you should also have 8 washes. But with the Frost filter of the Design Spot's it helps resolve not having to buy so many washes. Still the wash effect of a...
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Re: Is there a 250 spot that will mix color like this?

bdunard ·
Is the "rainbow effect" that is listed on the elation site for the design wash 250 the same smooth color changing that I see in the video? Or is the color change in the video a carefully programmed chase? The design 300 looks great! However I don't think I can pull the trigger on a fixture that is that much more. It's a bit out of my range at this point as I see it lists for $2k more than the Design Spot 250. At the end of the day I would like to have more beams of light I think than just a...
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Re: Is there a 250 spot that will mix color like this?

serraava ·
I would look into the DS 250 Wash for that effect on the cheap. It is the cheapest CMY moving head out I believe. The CMY might not be that punchy on dark colors do to the 250w lamp however. If you are really set on that effect, and it is a great effect, I would look into the washes. Remember, washes can be used for other things too. Stuff like fading in between colors for stage washes smoothly vs color scrolling which you would need twice as many fixtures to do without being seen scrolling...
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Re: Is there a 250 spot that will mix color like this?

bdunard ·
Jingles, I am recreating your youtube video and I am curious how when you touch one fader it effects all the lights (i.e. when you open the dimmer it opens all the dimmers on all the lights) When I do it it only opens one light. Is there something that you did to link them?
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Re: Is there a 250 spot that will mix color like this?

bdunard ·
Nevermind I tried holding Shift and that did it.
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Re: What are some other uses for moving heads at weddings?

serraava ·
Lighting doesn't just light. It helps set the mood and accents the room as well. Movement is also a part of lighting, and with it adds another dimension. I have done a ton of shows which I just have movers slowly moving around the room for glow and effect, other times just changing and shooting gobos on different targets for effect like this: Sorry for photo quality, camera phone. But the center piece I have 2 Mac 700's shooting on it using different gobos and colors for different things at...
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Re: What are some other uses for moving heads at weddings?

esteban ·
it depend on the location too. It amazes me the amount of money people put into weddings. We did this one HUGE set up with lighting. the wedding was in a 3 acre backyard. there was a pond with a water fall, tons of trees, a stage for the band, a huge dance floor and all the seating area. what we did was for every group of trees of 3 or more we would light with century colour 2500's. individual trees we used the design 250 (PR) . the pond and waterfall was all LED lit. front truss was pars...
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Re: Newbie looking for help/advice

serraava ·
Depends on exactly what you are looking to do. If it is just conventional lighting, then a scene setter will do, even with some LEDs in the mix. For movers, you will need some sort of moving light console, be it a Magic 260 (wouldn't recommend), DMX Operator 192, Show Designer 1, the CompuLive computer program, etc etc. If you also want to add moving lights later, I would go for a moving light console so you are not kicking yourself later, or you can do what I often do and use one console...
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Re: Newbie looking for help/advice

serraava ·
Yes, what you are describing are what a console would call a scene. A Scene is just a bunch of lights recorded (saved) to look a certain way when you bring up that scene. So for example, if you made scene 1 nothing but blue lights, when you hit scene 1 the blue lights would come on. If you made scene 2 red lights, the red lights would come on with scene two. If you made scene 3 red and blue lights, both the red and blue lights would come on when scene 3 is up. A series of scenes is called...
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Re: Newbie looking for help/advice

christianpyro ·
Thanks for the explenation, it really helps me understand this stuff better, and what I need to get. so does this mean that you have 96 pages for each book or 96 pages total for all 8 books put together? And you mentioned the DMX opereater Pro. Is this a good controller? It seems to have everything on it that I would need. And how hard is it to program these "pages". Does it require the use of a computer program such as compulive or can I do it simply and manually? (I understand if you don't...
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