Scenes change to the music

I'm Pretty sure you can. I don't remember how to do int in compu live. (and I am booted into mac right now not win) but I've work with Freestyler a lot more in it you click on the fixture>React to sound. then you have to setup the sound, you can use any input to pc (mic, analog, or digital) then set sensitivity and set weather you want it to go to next step in the scene or output random DMX Bits. I Imagine that it similar in compu as there both have some similar features.

Actually in compu live you can set the lights to respond to the music however you cannot set different scenes to trigger via music unless using midi. hope this helps.
Sincerely,

I wouldn't Recommend MIDI unless you know what you are doing, It doesn't use MIDI to trigger the light from trancoded music rather it use certain signal for each key on the board (or I guess in this case the software), with that being said it get complicated fairly quick,

The answer would be yes. but you can not do it with the scenes and cycles you have created.
You have to use the Easy Step feature when you program you chase.
Then click on this button.

I have been trying to get sound to light to work for quite some time.
Thanks for the post showing the area in Easy Step where it is done!!!

However, now that I followed your instructions and my lights are actuating by sound, they are false triggering when sound is not inputting, and they are jumping past steps in the easy step sequence when ever they change.

I tried changing the sensitivity in the audio analysis and that did not fix it.

Any ideas?

Thanks!
Steve

I would run the audio out of the sound board thorough a sub out (probably 1/4") in to a small mixer (one of those $75 3-4 ch mixers) and out into your computer. put the sub out fader on the main board at about zero. and adjust your gain and volume to keep it from peaking and getting extra noise. it is probably just triggering from static on the channel from to high of a gain.

Steve,
Make sure that you set the wait time of each scene long enough, a minute or more, so the scene does not change before being triggered by music.
And take a look at the image of the audio analysis window.
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I've been playing around with trying to make the sound to lights usable for quite a while today

I disconnected my mic and connected an Ipod instead to get away from any background noise triggering the lights

I found that one of the issues was that the fade time was longer than the period between audio events and this was causing what seemed to be "spaz" triggering of the lights. I shortened the fade in time and now the lights go from one color to the next instead of skipping and "spazzing".


HOWEVER.......


They still trigger too often.

On my low budget light controllers that have a volume control, you can turn the knob down and get the lights to trigger less often, sort of like making the time between trigger events 2 or 4 or 8 times as long.

I cannot get the lights to trigger less than about 1/4 of a second between events without it totally losing any semblance of following the beat.

If I send an insert from the kik drum, our drummers happy and syncopated kik drum will make the lights "spaz" big time so that's not an option.

Basically, I'm trying to get the lights to sense the tempo of the music and I'd like to be able to adjust a control to double or quadruple the time between trigger events. Hope this makes some sense!

Any help on this?

Also, can anyone tell me how the areas that my arrow is pointing at are selected?

it sounds like a Tap sync my be a better choice in your case.

What is a tap sync? Will it follow the music when tempo shifts? We have songs that change tempo.

I want to use this with my band and we do not have a dedicated light person so the software needs to be able to sense the beat and trigger the lights to it like our cheap controllers always have in the past.

it want work there is no one to "tap it" to the beat of the music (only about 3 times).

i wouldn't recommend running it off the insert on a channel because the level of that is control by the Gain. it would be better to running to a sub out and the select the sub out (usually two are group together 1-2,3-4) on the channels you want going to the software to control the lights.

what board do you have?

it may have a mono out with a volume control on back (XLR probably)

I currently use a Yamaha LS9-16 digital console which will route anything anywhere. I run sound for many bands and also run a recording studio. Hooking it up to a suitable output should not be a problem, but if I can't make it work at home, it will never see a live show.

Until we can make it work at home, my Compu Live and 12 L.E.D. lights are just sitting at home gathering dust and we use 8 Par 38b's, 2 DMX dimmer packs, and a FC400 foot controller.

Right now I'm running an Ipod into the input and it won't trigger slower that way too fast without the lights becoming random.

All I want to do is what the FC 400 controller will do, and that's follow the beat of the music.

This really should not be rocket science.

(sorry, just venting. I do appreciate your input and efforts to help!)

ok, so the ipod input (unless amplified by the board) isn't strong enough to work correctly ipod's have a very weak output.

how high are you running the output out of the board also how are you getting the audio into computer (any special, sound card?, what converters are you using to get from board to computer?)

I'm not using a board right now, I'm at home trying to make it work before I haul anything out.

Currently, the Ipod is plugged directly into the laptop's mic input. The mic input of the computer gets plenty of signal from the IPod but I can throttle down the IPod to match what it needs from the Ipod.

The CompuLive is triggering to the music (just too fast) When I reduce the volume, it goes from triggering the lights too fast to triggering them inconsistently and then not at all as the volume is reduced.

I'm pretty darn sure that it's not lack of input that is causing my problem.

I'm showing PLENTY of signal in the audio analysis screen.

My guess is that if I could get to the 1/4 second adjustment on the screen that I posted a jpg of above in this thread that I would be able to do what I need.

Any ideas of how those features are actuated? Just clicking on them does nothing.

is it running from music BPM or Pulse?

I was running it on pulse.

BPM seems to be a little better. Still too fast though. I want the lights to change every couple beats or every 4th beat. You could do that with the FC 400 by turning down the input.

It will be a pain in the arse, but I'm going to program some sequences where the 1st 3 scenes are identical (say all blue) and the next 4 scenes are identical (say blue and green) and see if that "fools" it into slowing down the changes.

Seems like a lot of work, but that's the best I've got so far.

Still curious is there is anyway to adjust the parameters I pointed an arrow at in the jpg I posted in the thread above.

Just programmed a chase with 3 scenes.
Used cut and paste and copied the 1st scene 4 times, then the 2nd four times, then the 3rd four times.

Seems to sort of be working.

I may be in business.

Going to do a bunch of programming tomorrow and try it out at band practice Wednesday.

I appreciate your help Jason!

you click on them and once u see the Black border around the box put your mouse over the What u see in the pic u posted is the easy step square, now that 1/4 function is now assigned to that channel. Make sense? Try reading the instructions in the dialog box to the right of the scene edit window. Let me know if i can help further.
Sincerely,

quote:

Originally posted by jingles:
you click on them and once u see the Black border around the box put your mouse over the What u see in the pic u posted is the easy step square, now that 1/4 function is now assigned to that channel. Make sense? Try reading the instructions in the dialog box to the right of the scene edit window. Let me know if i can help further.
Sincerely,

I click on the box and a square lights up around the box and nothing changes that I can tell. If you click on another box the square moves, but still nothing seems to happen differently.

The message window on the right doesn't help me with those boxes at all. All it says is:

The SOUND TO LIGHT rack enables you to control channels with the audio modulation. Note: Your computer must be equipped with a sound card. Do not forget to adjust the recording mixing table in Windows to give you access to sound. You must also set AUDIOIN to YES in the starting parameters.

It does not tell how to actuate the controls and no where does it tell you what the boxes above the Green Triangle or the little green speaker actually do.

(What do they do?)

As elation pro pointed out, we should use the easystep rack to program all the steps (scenes, cues..)I did exactly what he said and get beautiful results

I think we shouldn't use the sound to light rack because:

1- the scenes change too rapid.
2- Random scenes change, not as the way you want it.
e.g in easystep rack, you set the sequence red to green to white ... and after you make that setting, it'll goes like that and is controlled by BPM.
In sound to light rack, you can't get the lights change to the color that you want, or the moving mirrors (moving heads ) move to the direction that you want.

I thought that adjusting the sound to light rack would refine the timing of the changes programmed in the easy step rack.

Is this wrong?

If so, that explains why changing it doesn't seem to do anything for me.

I think the sound to light rack and easy step rack are two different rack. For one button, if you edit it under whichever rack,it'll get the properties of the last rack that you use.

So my guess is you edit that button under sound to light rack, so you have the unwanted scene changing.

The easy step rack is like virtual console and when you use it in tandem with the 3D view window,it is much more easier to program any cue than the real console.

If I program a sequence like RED to Green to Blue and let it be controlled by BPM, the lights change to that order and keeping that order to the beat of the music.

In sound to light rack, you will get a random color change,or ON-OFF to the beat(or basss,treble depending on what you choose) and you won't know which color they will change to.