Tagged With "Elation Platinum Beam"
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Re: Some compulite questions
ok to adjust a circle movement: you create a blank scene and then you go ino edit and then you will click on the east time editor tab then once u do that u right click on the box that says "right click here to automatically create motion" and select automatic circle. assign how many points u want to then click ok. then once again right click on a pont in your circle and select shape properties. and then u can manaually adjust where you want the beam to stay within a certain area. understand?
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Re: OPTI 30 RGB
That is one Opti 30 RGB, all LEDs on. It won't out shine a 500w Par 56 or 500w 6", but it does keep up or out do a 120w Par 38. Also, beam is fairly tight as you can see in the picture. Sorry about the quality of the photo, done with a camera phone.
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Re: Design 36 LED
Wow this is great. I have not moved forward on my next order of LED lighting yet so this news also helps get me off the fence. I would need 20 chips to replace old units. Now if you tell me that I can get a smaller beam angle with the units and some diffusion filters for my Design 60 I might just hug you. Thank you very much.
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Re: Design 36 LED
I would also like to add that i have found a few issues with my chauvet Colorado 1 units and was not willing to buy more of them yet. I do need a unit with a narrow beam like they have
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Re: General uplighting for sanctuary - suggestions?
I can't. Im at the tire shop putting new ones on the work van. Just happened to have the store laptop with me and an ethernet cable. Otherwise I'd be stuck watching Christy Yamagoochie on the only TV station they get in this place. HAHAHA! But yes, seems the 2 options are either a low profile up-light from the crown molding along the sides, (traditionally churches put florescent bulbs here), or some sort of tiny can(or long thin) fixture on each beam washing down on the congregation.
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Re: Is there a 250 spot that will mix color like this?
bdunard, Yes, a wash will be about from 40 brighter than a spot. You have a lot more light being projected along a bigger beam of light. However, that's all a wash fixture does.. color change.. but the beam of light it projects is impressive. Most rigs require a 1 to 1 ratio where you have 1 wash to every spot. So if you have 8 Spots you should also have 8 washes. But with the Frost filter of the Design Spot's it helps resolve not having to buy so many washes. Still the wash effect of a...
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Re: ADJ X-Move LED moving head...will there be an elation version soon?
well here is what the page says. "LED TECHNOLOGY BREAKTHROUGH! The X-Move LED Hi-Tech Moving Head features a 20-Watt white LED for a hard edge beam that will project gobos and solid colors. Now you can enjoy the look of a traditional halogen or discharge lighting effect with a fraction of the power draw (44W) and without the hassle of changing out the light bulbs (LEDs rated at 50,000 hours)."
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Re: Where do I get fixture profiles for Elation DLED TriBrick 36 and Tri64B?
Ive also had a problem with numerous profiles not showing the light beam in 3D viz. Its just something I have learned to live with...
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Re: lighting intensity and throw distance
Well, that all depends on beam size and throw distance. How bright something is over distance is can be determined by lumen's. How bright something is over a given area is foot candles or lux. Foot candles are lumen's/ft^2, so it is a more actuate method of how bright something will be over just lumen output which is based off of a single point instead of actually beam size. FC is considered old, but one FC equals 10.764 lux, though some just use a factor of 10 to simplify things. Warning,...
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Re: CKC Profile
For some reason I have a light beam problem on the CKC 458 that I can't figure out. Maybe you can Jingles
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Re: CKC Profile
Hey schadow. i fixed all the little problems on your profiles. but i had been staring at the 458 but cannot figure out why it is dong that beam not open by default. im mailing the profiles back fixed but try it in the viewer and let me know how it works. sincerely,
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Re: design 108
I never got a chance to hook it up to control do to missing parts. I do own several colorado 1 and they are not a good wash lite. They have a very bright narrow Beam and make good beam lights . I like my design 36 as a wash unit and use them in that fashion often. .
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Re: design 108
You are correct bdunard in the fact that the Colorado is brighter then a DLED36 do to lack of a diffusion filter. I did a side by side of an Opti RGB and a DLED36 and the Opti was brighter, but had a much smaller beam then the DLED36. As far as DLED36 vs Tri64B, they might be about even at the same beam size do to the fact that the DLED uses Luxeons and the Tri64B doesn't. Luxeons are some of the best LEDs you can get, and are priced accordingly. They have a higher output per watt than other...
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Re: design 108
I think your best bet would probably to go with DLED36s since they come stock with the 39 degree beam angle. You can also get roughly 2 for the price of one DLED108. Have you looked at the Opti RGB with lens kit? This might be an option since it is cheaper then the DLED36s, with the lens kit. Here is another idea, look at the Opti 30 RGB. You should be able to get between 10-15 at that price range. You can use those 10-15 Opti 30s to replace the DLED36s for your back drop wash and move the...
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Re: design 108
Ok bdunard, here are the shots. Sorry it took a while to do, been really busy. First is white. The Opti 30 RGB on the left and DLED36 on the right. The target is about 5 feet away. As you can see, the DLED 36 is brighter, though not by much. The beam is also bigger, as would be expected in 25 degree angle vs 39 degree angle. Next is red. Then green. And lastly blue. One interesting thing I learned while doing this, the Opti 30 RGB is much better at matching the gel colors in the gel selector...
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Re: design 108
Thanks for the pics! Does the Design 36 have the plastic diffusion plate in it? Also, I compared a 575W S4 to a design 36 and the S4 is brighter on some colors (yellows, oranges, whites, etc...) but the DLED 36 makes a much more "dense" red, green, blue, pink, and teal. So I thought maybe getting the 3W DLED 108IP might be a better deal (wider beam and a bit brighter) compared to a DLED 26 without diffusion. However, after doing a show this weekend I have noticed that the musicians perceive...
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Re: Photometrics
From the site: http://www.elationlighting.com/pdffiles/opti-tri-par-photometrics.pdf There is not a photometrics up on the WEB for the EX flood but it says it has a 40 degree beam angle. i dont know if that helps but there you go. Sincerely,
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Re: Design wash 250's
the one on the left also acts weird when mixing colors. see how there is some blue in the lower part of the beam.
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Re: LED diffusion
So you are looking for something very thick like an Octo Strip covering then. Diffusion won't help much. Getting it away from the LEDs more will help eliminate individual LEDs though. As for color shadows: This is 2 DLED 36s 44" away from the wall, 28" apart from each other. The speaker stands are 15" away from the wall and 2" in diameter. The DLED on the left has the stock diffusion filter in it, the one on the right does not. As you can see, without the diffusion, the DLED increases in...
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Re: Profile needed for Penat Beam
Lol...I'm sorry, for Compu Club. And that should be Penta Beam..... thanks for anyone that can help.
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Re: Multiple Shutters
There are a couple more then that. You can order VL1000s with either an iris or a shutter like you are talking about. Mac 2k Performance also has shutters. There are some others out there as well. Then beam shapers are the equivalent for wash fixtures, which just about everyone has now a days. They are rarely useful outside a theatre setting, so its kind of a niche market. Always nice to have options however, like 2k Profile and 2k Performance, though I am sure a lot more Profiles are sold...
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Re: Multiple Shutters
You can grab some barn doors for the LED fixtures if you get something like Opti RGBs or Opti Tri Pars. Beam shapers will give some of that control, but not like shutters or barn doors will. Maybe a dealer in your area or someone who has some fixtures can demo say a DW250 or any light with a beam shaper for you to show you what exactly the beam shaper does. It might give you the control you need. Can't hurt to look. Cheapest fixture with shutters would be a Revolution. Personally however, I...
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Re: Multiple Shutters
I would like to clarify for Serra, The design WASH's I believe the 300 and up have beam shaper. I dont believe the design wash 250 has a beam shaper. Also the design spot just has a dual flag dimming system. Serra you said DS250 which to me says Design Spot 250 not wash. Sorry if im being a pain. haha. Sincerely,
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Re: Multiple Shutters
Wow, my fault. I will edit the post. It should have been DW250, not DS250. As for the DW250 and beam shaper, it has 180 degree one according to website, manuals, DMX chart, and cue sheet. Don't actually have one to say yes or no, but that would be a lot of miss prints. The DW300 and DW575 have 360 degree shapers. The DW1400 says it has it, but its not in the DMX settings anywhere.
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Re: Multiple Shutters
Clay Paky has a couple like that as well. Not beam shapers but four, true shutter cuts that you can work individually.
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Re: Design Wash Led Question
Well, the Designs will blow away the Opti Tri. The LED 60 has 180w of LED behind it and the LED Pro has 324w of LED behind it. The Opti Tri has 54w for comparison. Size wise, the DWLED 60 only has a 15 degree beam vs the 25 degree beam of the DWLED Pro and the Opti Tri. Keep that in mind, because you will need more DWLED 60s to wash a stage then the other two fixtures. Also, the Opti Tri is using tri-color LEDs, so no color shadows. Not sure if this is an issue or not for your application,...
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Re: Hazer/Fazer....confusion :confused:
A Fazer does both fog and haze. You simply run it at a lower output to get a fazer to haze. All fazers (that I know of) are water based only. Most hazers are oil based. There are some that are water and oil based. The HZ-400 does both oil and water based for example. I am still waiting on an answer to my question with regards to the HZ300 and whether or not it can use water as well as oil based, as seen here: http://forums.elationlighting....31084274/m/745105374 Oil based tends to hang...
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Re: framing shutters?
Hey len. I don't believe there are any Elation products with framing shutters. I know the moving head wash fixtures have beam shapers in them, basically a wash equivalent to a shutter. But as far as a hard edge shutter, there are no products that I am aware of.
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Re: Platinum Spot
Dear All. No... The Platinum Spot does not use Plasma. The new lamp in this fixture is called the MSD Platinum 5R by Philips and is a 160-180w lamp with output comparable to a 575w discharge lamp fixture. It has double the efficacy of the plasma source and the fixture is half the size also. We had a very successful launch of this product at LDI and more info will come out very soon.
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Re: Platinum Spot
You are very knoledgable and thank you for your feedback. We will release more details shortly and the product will be shippping early in 2010 so the comparisons will start from then. Feedback was great from the show and we certainly expect great results from the Platinum and LED source fixtures we debuted.
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Re: Platinum Spot
Ok, just saw on the website that the Platinum Spot is $2,799 MSRP!?!?! Wow... I was looking at getting DS300s in our new church, but it would be crazy to not get the PS! Obviously, I would lose color mixing, but gain zoom... =)
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Re: Platinum Spot
We appreciate your comments but yes...you are missing something very important! Raw lamp measurements are great but until you get a lamp in a fixture and in its optic system and then see how the lamp and look at the fixtures at the same beam angle you can't really tell the proper perofrmance. When you measure the TOTAL lumen output of the Platinum Spot 5R accross the entire light field then you start to see the advantage. This is why we say you have to see it to believe it! Yes the DS300 and...
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Re: Platinum Spot
I have a picture I can post of the lamp performance. It is from a American Dj shoot out but the new ADJ fixture has the new 5R lamp. You will see that it beats out a 575 watt discharge moving head from ADJ. keep in mind this is the ADJ vizi spot not the platinum spot. This will just give you an idea of the lamp performance. Sincerely,
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Re: Platinum Spot
Here is a video on the Vizi Spot http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zJXlwA1HjdQ . Again the even beam is amazing... I would venture to guess the head is the same as the Platinum, but the base on the platinum will have a full feature lcd display. Im sold after the video.
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Re: Platinum Spot
Yep the Platinum Spot has a differnt design head and base and has remote focus and improved optics and more features over the Vizi Spot...
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Re: Platinum Spot
I hate to be impatient but when will we see some specs or at least a cut sheet on the Platinum? Our install is set to begin sometime around February or March and ive got DS300s on it. If this thing has what I want, I want to switch it it. Does it have CTO, CTB?
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Re: Platinum Spot
Thanks Eric. I would take the brightness over the CMY and extra prizm anyday. I do enjoy having CMY but I can definately live without it. We really need a 575 fixture in our room but the DS575 was out of our price range, so we were going with the 300 just to get some extra output. I think the Platinum solves that problem. Thanks again, Justin
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Re: Platinum Spot
Just wanted to inform those that are concerned: the new LED lights and E spot and Platinum spot are now on our website. www.elationlighting.com Sincerely,
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Re: Platinum Spot
Just one thing to keep in mind EBAC, who knows how much replacement Platinum 5R lights. Also keep in mind that LED's have a problem in that once they get hot, they are done. They have been problems with cooling and LEDs on certain fixtures and causes them to go bad. Not to say that the DS LED will have the same issues, but let's say I am doing work in a hot environment, what then?
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Re: Platinum Spot
From what ive read and been told, you can by 2 or 3 Platinum lamps for the price of 1 msr575, so we shall see. As far as the led goes... There is no way I will go with leds this early in the game, I still do not trust them, and they just cant keep up with other technologies yet. Im just saying that the brightness factor is a step in the right direction. J
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Re: Platinum Spot
The replacement cost of the Platinum Spot lamp in the market will be comparable to an 575 lamp to start. Remember, this lamp includes a reflector so you basically get a new optical system each time you replace the lamp - unlike a standard MSD250 or 575 plus it is rated at 2,000hours to start - Philips hopes to get it to 3,000 hours.
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Re: Platinum Spot
Excellent, thanks for the info Eric. Good to know I will actually end up spending less on lamps since the Platinum 5R lasts twice as long as an MSR 575/SA2 DE. Also nice to see they are trying to get it into the MSD 250 range, which makes bang for the buck even better then.
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Re: Looking for Par64 Replacements, sort of
Hey Chris, you should also probably check out the Opti RGB and the Opti Tri 30 . Both are cheaper then the ELED RGB Zoom, but have less power output. The Opti RGB 24x1w and comes with a 25 degree beam to start, optional 45 degree lens available. The Opti 30 Tri comes with 21w total of tri-LED. It is a much smaller foot print then the Opti RGB. It comes with a 10 degree beam to start and optional 25 degree lens. Both have all the functions you are looking for in a fixture.
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Re: Looking for Par64 Replacements, sort of
Well, if they hold their own against regular 500-watt Par64's, then both are viable options. In know a "which one is better" is a subjective and relative thing. I guess the bigger question is "what is the typical beam angle of a Par64" compared to the same beam from the ADJ 64 LED Pro. So, I have some research to do. It does appear that, without doing any research, the Opti RGB would be the better choice due to the spread. With 25-degree angle, I can cover the entire stage with 4 lights from...
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Re: Looking for Par64 Replacements, sort of
Well, the Opti RGB would probably be closer to a 300w Par 56 lamp. As for beam sizes of Par 64 lamps, they are roughly as follows: VN: 12 Degree N: 14 Degree M: 24 Degree W: 50 Degree Keep in mind they are rough numbers. Also remember that Medium and Wide lenses spread in an oval, not a circle. Here is a Cheat Chart for Par 64s. Granted, it is for 1000w, but the dimensions are the same for a 500w lamp.
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Re: Bored, so I figured I would post some photos
Those are ETC Source Four ParNels. Great fixtures, work like a Fresnel but are in a Par frame. Zoom range is 25-45 degrees. They also put out more light then a 1000w 6" Fresnel does with a 750w lamp, coming closer to a 2k 8". The beam isn't as soft and even as a Fresnel however. It also has less intensity do to the refractor then an 'equally' lensed S4 Par would. But since it puts out a circle and has a zoom, much easier to work with then Pars a lot of times. I still, however, use Pars for...
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Re: LED fixture questions
This is something odd, but I'll post it anways. I recently acquired 4 ADJ Mega Bar 50's, and 4 Mega Panels. The Mega Bars still provide a somewhat "round" beam, at least in distance. Close up they definately wash wide. I had a bit of a time focusing these at a recent event. The Mega Panels, despite being rectangular, do provide a relatively round "beam". Yes, I know these are wash fixtures, but when you end up with a soft circle on the surface, it's rather strange to me. I know, the LED's...
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Re: Platinum Spot Videos?
Will you take my work for it? I have seen these in person. They are awesome. the field of beam is perfect. The colors are vibrant and the gobo's are good. Sincerely,
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Re: another potentially simple question
In the last image you can see the grouping where I made a group that only has one of the mega bars selected. How would I set up a cue that only accesses this group? When I try to set up the cue to do just that I don't get the options for controlling the colors or beam levels. I am using 1024.
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Re: Platinum Spot Videos?
"ding ding ding" we have a winner Wow thats all i can say...elation can do soo much with this fixture..ive already got my order in for 24 of them. yes having CMY and zoom would make this thee best fixture to have and use....even compared to the big boys, martin, clay, high end and so on. I'd like to see them make this into a dedicated wash and beam fixture... maybe not soo much the wash but having a beam fixture...as such as the ADJ version.