Tagged With "Original Retail Price"
Reply
Re: Design 36 LED
John and Ron , Thank you for your help on this problem. I am excited to hear that this might have a simple solution. I know that it is hard to please everyone with pre program effects but I feel strongly that this was a design flaw, and not just my picky personality trying to have my cake and eat it to. Given the time I would often write my own effects but when it comes to the people I am renting these units to just having them change colors without the strobing would make life allot easer.
Reply
Re: question about mixed lighting
This is probably a stupid question... but since all of the lights we own are not dmx, i have to ask :P What is the significance of whether a controller is intended for intelligent/fx/par cans? For instance, why is the operator pro not capable of running par cans except on the last 8 channels? The operator pro looks like it has a street price close to some pc-controlled systems i've seen. Would we be better off just lugging one of our laptops with us and running things that way?
Reply
Re: Design 36 LED
I guess that is what i was waiting for it is a shame that 7 of the 8 programs are bad and that is that. I will be ordering the next twenty units sometime this week only i will be going with the Colorado1 from chauvet. I have ten of this units and the feature sets and service are way better and the price is $100+ better then the design 36. I am also starting to have problems with my design 60 units and will be shoping for another brand to complete my need for 15 more units.
Reply
Re: OPTI 30 RGB
Thanks John. They are great little lights. The internal programs in them are fantistic. They are also very easy to set the mode and go to internal programs. They are a great price too, offering a lot of bang for the buck. I don't think I personally would ever use an Opti RGB because of the size of them. I would just rather spend the extra money and get DLED 36s instead. They are much smaller and more powerful. The problem I have with DLED 36s however, is they are dip switches unlike the Opti...
Reply
Re: OPTI 30 RGB
Nice, any idea what the lumen output on the fixture will be? I like the advances Elation is making in the LED segment to make them more mainstream, and also like the advances in the moving head market. The flooding of the market with different wattage movers, high abilities, and very competitive price is great, means I can do more for less and makes clients happy. A few big problems I have with Elation is shipping, product availability, durability, and quality control. Fix these things, and...
Reply
Re: OPTI 30 RGB
Problem is jingles that your middle men don't do their job real well. I can tell you I ordered a PS575, within one month, the lens in the front had fallen out, and the dimmer didn't work. It also had a few other issues. They sent my advanced replacement out late, despite saying it would be there a certain day, and because it that, it hurt a show I was doing and lost money on it. About 6 months later, I ordered 2 PS575IEs. One light, 2nd show I used it for, about 3 weeks old and under 50...
Reply
Re: DMX Merger
LighTech, We do have a DMX Merger in stock. I'm surpriesed its not on the web. DM-2512R 19" RACK MOUNT DMX MERGER. Send me an e-mail to info@elationlighting.com and I'll get you a manual or data sheet. Retail price is $399.95 good in stock. Best regards,
Reply
Re: Design 36 LED
Hi PU.. Believe me, I am also glad our R&D department jumped on it. I just wished they would have told me, instead of telling me they couldn't. We will have lens kits for them as well, but it looks like a 15 and 45 degree kit. I know they are working on an 8 or 12 degree lens kit, but nothing yet. FYI.. Price on the DLED 36 went down a few dollars so you'll be able to get a better price, and we are introducing the DLED 108IP, which is a DLED 36 with K2 Leds, and IP65 rated. Send me an...
Reply
Re: Design 36 LED
Yea, going in two diff. churches. (order will be for Magnolia Music Center - Gulfport, MS) We are new so I'm sure we have to pay for it all up front a few times before we get "terms". HAHA! 8 DLED 36, 2 DLED MH, and 2 Design Spot 250 fixtures go to one church. 10 DLED 36, and 2 Design Spot 250 fixtures go to another church. Both will go Compu Live for control. (and yes, James has laid out one 3D for me and might be working on the 2nd one soon) Plan on having both installed and trained by...
Reply
Re: dxm operator pro
you know they are not too bad. around 300 buxs i think. but factor in how much ur lights cost and then factor in the price of the opto. you will justify the money. either that or buy a new rig! lol sincerely,
Reply
Re: Scene Setter 48 issues, less than 1 year
Regarding your edit: Over 2 years of constant use things can get that way. My church owns a stage setter-48 and the only problems we are having with it, is the faders are starting to not work properly. Who knows, maybe you did just get a "dud" but Elation has been the best company I have ever seen, as far as quality, for the price they have! jthtiger
Reply
Re: Scene Setter 48 issues, less than 1 year
Well if you're starting to have fader issues just after 2 years then I'm thinking this might not be a dud. How many faders are you having a problem with? And what exactly is the problem?
Reply
Re: Scene Setter 48 issues, less than 1 year
Hi World.. Elation guy jumping in here. in the world of consoles in general the faders and buttons you commonly use will need to be replaced sometime or another.. sometimes sooner than later. With the Elation consoles we strive to use the good components to do the Job and not the best component made.. That is why you will see some lighting consoles for alot more money than the Elation product, and some consoles for less money. We believe our consoles are a great value for the price. However...
Reply
Re: Scene Setter 48 issues, less than 1 year
Oh No, We have had this controller for over 10 years (i think. . .at least 7). The problem is that when you push some of the faders up to 100% it skips down to 30% and flashes around. It is kinda hard to explain. You push it up and it hits 100 then jumps back and forth between 30 and 100. Does that make sense? We just need another one. About the 192 not being satisfactory, you would have fast control over lots of faders. All you would do is it one button, and then change the faders. There...
Reply
Re: General uplighting for sanctuary - suggestions?
u could check out a few of the dLED 12 strips. good price too. maybe one on each side? idk your the installer. lol
Reply
Re: General uplighting for sanctuary - suggestions?
Those might be out of their price range but think im on the right track. I think once they compare the fixture price and ease of installation of the DLED12brick to having an electrician come in and pull wire for conventional down lights, the LED fixtures may win out. FWIW, they dont need color changing or strobes - just a general white light on the congregation. 12brick come as a WHITE yet?
Reply
Re: Design Spot 575 VS. Power Spot 575
Hello, ybravo. i really like he design spot 575 cause you have so many features on it. for instance 2 rotating gobo wheels is almost unheard of on a 575 in that price range, CMY, animation wheel. i would say from a programming standpoint you could do more with a design spot 575 then a power spot 575. and i have not heard of the power spots coming in white. i'll look in to this for you. sincerely,
Reply
Re: design 108
Is that because the Colorado ships without a diffusion filter? I would assume it is. I see the list price has been dropped on the Tri64B so one would think it now contends with DLED 36 and others.
Reply
Re: design 108
Thanks for the info. I am looking to add some wash fixtures to my new stage. I have truss with 6 Elation DLED 36's uplighting an Austrian sewn backdrop, I have added 6 of the new TriBrick LED's as eye candy on the rear truss. Now I just need to get rid of my Source 4's with color changers. I am keeping to S4's to light the singers up front but would like to add 2 to 3 LED wash fixtures on each tree to wash the band (9 piece band). I've been recommended everything. I would like to be in the...
Reply
Re: design 108
I think your best bet would probably to go with DLED36s since they come stock with the 39 degree beam angle. You can also get roughly 2 for the price of one DLED108. Have you looked at the Opti RGB with lens kit? This might be an option since it is cheaper then the DLED36s, with the lens kit. Here is another idea, look at the Opti 30 RGB. You should be able to get between 10-15 at that price range. You can use those 10-15 Opti 30s to replace the DLED36s for your back drop wash and move the...
Reply
Re: design 108
That would be great if you could post the pics! I think I might go with either a TriBrick or a TriPar. I can't really go with anything less bright on my backdrop. I might keep my DLED 36's on the backdrop and just buck up and pay for the TriPars or TriBrick's for my wash. I am going to borrow a TriPar can and compare it to my TriBrick and DLED 36. I might even get a Colorado 3 since it is in the same price range.
Reply
Re: Compu Live Question
Not sure about the price but great! I cant see $1000 for a push button controller... Will it have something more then just push buttons or what?
Reply
Re: Compu Live Question
Ok, I found what I believe John is talking about. http://www.nicolaudie.com/main.php?id_page=28 It is the same list price that he stated. It does look nice but its still overkill from what I am talking about. It is a self contained wall mount DMX controller much like the AR-32. It can be programmed with the Easy Stand Alone software, and act as a dmx usb dongle for Sunlite/Compu. So basically it is like an Easy Stand Alone box in a fancy touch panel for the wall. I dont think you guys...
Reply
Re: Newbie Question!
I can help with a few recommendations. What is the room size? and the height at which these fixtures will be mounted? For a beginner moving head i would go with 2 design spots 250. Led par cans Check out some of our LED par cans and if the price is too high check out American DJ's P64LED Pro. Oh and what is your budget? Sincerely,
Reply
Re: Newbie Question!
For front light at smaller venues, I would lean more towards LEDs vs Par 64s. Par 64s can be lamped 500w, 600w, or 1000w. That is a lot of juice, and at smaller venues, power is often an issue. Check out the Opti 30 RGBs or the new Opti 30 Tri. If that is out of your price range, would look to the P64LED Pro like jingles said. For moving heads, again, DS250s are great fixtures. The might be out of your range however, so a Power Spot 250 would be a cheaper, yet still great quality alternate.
Reply
Re: Scene Setter 48
You can use Elation's Compu 2048FC+, which like jingles said, is a whole brand new controller unto itself. The other much more expensive option would be WYSIWYG Perform which is extremely compliacted and most likely out of your price range by a large margin. Price is $4,175 for 12 months worth of upgrades and another $995 a year for a once a year renewal to keep it up-to-date.
Reply
Re: Scene Setter 48
We have in stock Compu DMX IN This a USB interface with a DMX input only. It allows you to use Magic 3d Software. Retail is $599.95 Oddly its not on our website?? i'll have to look into that.
Reply
Re: DP-415?
My experience with these eurolight boards isn't Good the boards have Good features for the price. but in my experience I have never Got on working on a 3pin dmx. I see people use these on 5pin dmx systems, and I have also heard of people using them on three pin networks (not with an adapter though), they take apart the board and un soilder the 5pin XLR jack and put in and solider on a 3pin XLR jack. Basically, Behringer is a company based out of Germany, hardly any of there products are...
Reply
Re: Opto Branch
Hello, i know this is an old thread but rather than start another on i figured i could piggy back onto this one. I recently had a problem with my compuware dongle and from that i learned about using a dmx opto splitter / booster. I ran across 2 elation products that seem to be what i need, just wondering what the difference is between the opto branch 4 and the dmx branch 4 ? Both from elation, the specs on both appear to be the same. Only obvious difference is one is a single space 19" rack...
Reply
Re: James, help with best bang for the buck...
hmmm at around 2,000 huh? Do you want LED lights? moving heads? Scanners? DJ effects? Let me know. for 2 grand i would say try to get maybe a pair of design spots for starters. If you go with ADJ your choices open up a bit more at that budget. But with elation we are a bit more expensive but all of our products are totally worth the money and you wont find a similar fixture at that price with the same features. Sincerely,
Reply
Re: Best controller for LED PAR's
Roger Welcome to the forums. I would suggest for someone starting out a DMX operator 192. Or even a magic 260 or My DMX From American DJ. Take a look around the elation website and the ADJ website and see what is in your price range. Sincerely,
Reply
Re: Hazer/Fazer....confusion :confused:
I've often been waiting for someone to ask this question and I'm actually surprised no one ever has. where do i start. A Fazer is basically a fog machine. Fog machines need to heat up for 15 minutes this incorporates a heating element that create your fog/haze effect. We don't actually call this machine a hazer. however many other manufacturers consider them Hazer because they provide a continuous amount of Fog/haze without the big blast of smoke. So these are considered heater based hazer...
Reply
Re: Looking for wash lights for large area but with lots of other features
Hi Chris, you mention this.. "and my budget is going to exceed $1000, but that's my working number." did you mean "is not" going to exceed? this is an important question due to the price points.. I can recomend a few of the Elation fixtures that would give you great coverage. DLED 60 STRIP ELED RGBW STRIP Even a fixture i'm fading out called the TP84a, Great punch light with good coverage.. but all these fixtures are over $500.00 each. So that being the case ADJ fixtures seems like the way...
Reply
Re: Hazer/Fazer....confusion :confused:
OK. I get what you're saying. Oil produces better results but leaves residue. For me, that's bad. Not acceptable, due to the residue. water-based doesn't work as well but you don't have the residue. I can handle that. It sounds like the Fazer X-310II might be what I'm looking for. Use an Antari water-based fog fluid. OK, again, I'm good. Now, I do have questions still. I want DMX control, so it sounds like I need to buy the X-20II DMX module, which is definately acceptable. Just to be clear,...
Reply
Re: Hazer/Fazer....confusion :confused:
Wow, that's gonna a be WAY over kill for this production. I see where you're coming from though. In this case, your experience is helpful, but I know for a fact there is just no way I can afford this unit, much less power it! The budget on this show is "whatever I can spare", and I've gotten word that I can give up the lighting search. Thanks for the advise though, I'm applying it towards a future purchase as I need stuff like that anyways. 4 IEC's? Crap. That's a lot. Seems like a 30-amp...
Reply
Re: Is is possible to submit concepts for new products?
I think right now, LED technology is maturing in two ways. First, trying to make LED performance on par with incandescent technologies, and second, making it affordable. Of course affordable is a relative term. Elation is no doubt the pricier brand, but you're getting more for more. I think the answer is that I'm sure Elation and ADJ are working on this. The 64 LED Pros that I have took some learning curve with some trial and error to find out how to best use those. While I like mine a lot,...
Reply
Re: Platinum Spot
Thanks Eric. I would take the brightness over the CMY and extra prizm anyday. I do enjoy having CMY but I can definately live without it. We really need a 575 fixture in our room but the DS575 was out of our price range, so we were going with the 300 just to get some extra output. I think the Platinum solves that problem. Thanks again, Justin
Reply
Re: Platinum Spot
OK understood - but more to that point we do now offer the Design Spot 575 B "Basic" as well...more in that price range you are looking for. We should get info on that unit up on our web this week but it is in our new catalog and in stock now. our model DSB575 - MSRP $2,999.95 Ask your sales rep. 7 + White Color Wheel, 1 Rotating 6+open Gobo Wheel,1 Static Gobo Wheel 7+open, Iris, Focus, Variable Frost, Rotating 3 facet Prism, Difference being, No CMY, No Zoom, No Animation, 1 rotating wheel...
Reply
Re: Platinum Spot
From what ive read and been told, you can by 2 or 3 Platinum lamps for the price of 1 msr575, so we shall see. As far as the led goes... There is no way I will go with leds this early in the game, I still do not trust them, and they just cant keep up with other technologies yet. Im just saying that the brightness factor is a step in the right direction. J
Reply
Re: Platinum Spot
If that is the case, then they would be cheaper then an MSD 250 and closer in price to par 64 lamps. As much as I hope is the case, I just don't see it working out that way. Philips would completely under cut every other lamp they have out right now and make it pointless to buy anything else then, shattering the bigger half of their business for entertainment lamps. MSR 575/SA2 DE are some of the most expensive arc lamps though.
Reply
Re: Platinum Spot
Sorry EBAC, but do to TOS, I won't post such information on the forum. I don't think the MAP pricing is released yet either, just the list price which is $2,800. So cheaper then the DS 575 at $5,500 but a lot less feature wise. Cool, thanks again Eric.
Reply
Re: Scene Setter - 24 CHANNEL DMX DIMMING CONSOLE
That's because you can't. An alternative option would be to assign all your reds to a single DMX channel, your greens to another and blues to still another(repeat as necessary). If this works for your situation, you're done. Sorry if that's now what you're looking for as far as an answer is concerned. To get the functionality you need, it requires a step up in price.
Reply
Re: DMX Operator Slider problem
Well, try this: Rapidly move the faders full up and down many times. Do this to ALL faders. How old is this fixture and what sort of use/abuse has it seen? Does this live in a rack? Does it move covered? How often do you use yours? Another idea is to use Caig's De-Oxit to spray into the fader(under the fringe, use the straw) and repeat. Short of that, the Radio Shack TV Tuner cleaner works good as well. Spray a little bit and move the faders a lot. If using the Caig's De-Oxit, it comes in a...
Reply
Re: new cyberpak, not at full power
I did quick research on the fixture models to get my numbers. It's not surprising that Serra Ava informs me that these fixtures come in a variety of wattages. It doesn't surprise me, these are some decent fixtures. I still think you need to ugprade to another dimmer pack. While you're getting 100% draw out of the dimmer pack, you're not delivering 100% to some of your fixtures(probably). If you're drawing more tahn 600-watts/channel, this is definately not the right fixture for you. Not...
Reply
Re: LED fixture questions
This is something odd, but I'll post it anways. I recently acquired 4 ADJ Mega Bar 50's, and 4 Mega Panels. The Mega Bars still provide a somewhat "round" beam, at least in distance. Close up they definately wash wide. I had a bit of a time focusing these at a recent event. The Mega Panels, despite being rectangular, do provide a relatively round "beam". Yes, I know these are wash fixtures, but when you end up with a soft circle on the surface, it's rather strange to me. I know, the LED's...
Reply
Re: PRO BAR 4 Help
Hi Where i got them from Is one of my Places of work, We got them as a deal with a large order so, My boss sold them to my at a good price. Im the Lighting tech at The Shop and anything like this tends not to get sent back anyway because i repair it. My Problem is with all the resources i have, i cannot find this component Anywhere & Looking for Through Compatible Charts i cannot find anything either. Thanks Joe
Reply
Re: Platinum Spot
oooh man... thats too bad then @ that retail price it should have WDMX thank you for your quick respond
Reply
Re: Midicon does not Work! No Profile
Hey Jingles Thanks for the phone call, really thought we might get somewhere after it, but only have more bad news to report: 1. Why is program still opening as Sunlite Suite? I have uninstalled and reinstalled 2 times with June download, saved and then opened, and it never opens as Elation Compu like it used to. 2. Went into starting parameters to check midi settings as asked. Clicked reset midi. Waited...waited, whole laptop locked up! Ctrl.alt.delete did nothing, had to hard power...