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Re: scene setter 24 dmx channel addressing
Luis, I have tried that numerous times. Granted , it has been about 10 years since I have used DMX lighting. My last controller, An Election was a breeze to address. This is my second Scene Setter 24 in four weeks. The first one my salesperson and I assumed was defective. Now, for many years I have used XLR mic cables and I am learning that they may not work with todays new lighting components. I am assuming there is quit a difference between XLR and DMX cabling... So, I presently have...
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Re: scene setter 24 dmx channel addressing
Carl, If the steps provided did not work, I suggest reviewing the instructions found printed on the bottom plate of the controller to verify that the steps provided match the "DMX CH. Assignment" setup, which is what you are trying to configure. Also, although XLR cables are physically an exact replacement of DMX cables, we do highly recommend using DMX cables, strictly for lighting. As far as addressing these lights, considering that the Scene Setter 24 is only a 24-Channel controller, it...
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Re: scene setter 24 dmx channel addressing
I've watched both videos twice. I can find nowhere where it shows how to address the DMX channels. I did see that in program mode you need to hit program Flash 8 (not 6) three times. This allows access to the DMX channel programming but the manuals stes do not work. I may have a bad "new" unit and am currently awaiting a replacement.
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Re: scene setter 24 dmx channel addressing
Hey Carl, To assign the DMX Channels on "ADJ" branded version of the Scene Setter you will need to do the following: 1. Enter Program Mode by pressing and holding the Record button and entering 1, 6, 6, 8. 2. Enter Channel Assign Mode by pressing and holding the Record button and entering 8, 8, 8. 3. Once this has been done the display will read 001, you can now use the Up or Down button to select the channel (1-512) that you want assigned. 4. Once your desired channel is displayed, tap the...
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Re: Some compulite questions
ok to adjust a circle movement: you create a blank scene and then you go ino edit and then you will click on the east time editor tab then once u do that u right click on the box that says "right click here to automatically create motion" and select automatic circle. assign how many points u want to then click ok. then once again right click on a pont in your circle and select shape properties. and then u can manaually adjust where you want the beam to stay within a certain area. understand?
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Re: Help w/ DMX addys
The first pack should have only the first dip switch up and the second should have only the first and third up. This will make the channel 1 for the first and 5 for the second, thus covering all 8 channels you want. No, you can't separate the two plugs so you get 8 channels out of each pack, its strictly 4 channels. However, yes you can add more packs and "piggy back" or "daisy chain" (which ever term you prefer) off of the DMX outs from the last dimmer pack. You should already be doing this...
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Re: powerspot 250 lenses
Hey John I think you should send us all Elation Black Satin Jackets for that find. Only Kidding I seen you at the NAMM show again this year. I was sorry to hear about SMOKIN JOE The Power Spots are working great I used them for a Bowling for Soup show with 8 active scans and 50 par 64's I will be running the same set up for this weekend for two good local bands Take care. FLASH / Pete Wrobel
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Re: powerspot 250 lenses
Jingles I talked about two bands Bowling for soup / I just worked one show Our After / 7 or 8 shows at TINKS in Scranton PA. If you look at (www.clubtinks.com ) click on Pics click on Tinks official Pictures scroll down to Oct 17 Bowling for Soup Click on it These are some pics of the Lighting rig. This weekend I will be working a different club sat. night with BLISS ( www.blissarmy.com ) C/ya
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Re: Compuware04 and SCX500's
do ur lights have 8 bit or 16 bit pan/tilt resolution. maybe u havw that feature turned off on the 1st 4 fixtures?? we are talking about the martin scx500's right?? if so check what dmx mode u have all the lights in. this is ali can think of right now. don't think it is the software. peace! jingles out!!!
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Re: Basics of Compu Live 06
Hi D-Rey, You have a good start, but your way off. What you want to do is start all over. In begginer mode, you can't delete or start over, so you will need to switch to expert mode. In expert mode, you need to create a new show. You will be prompted to save information. Don't save anything. Also you don't want to have any demo stuff. So creating a new show will remova all demo fixtures. Now.. Create a new page with your coemar fixture, and when you get to this section, you need to say you...
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Re: Basics of Compu Live 06
Ok I have added the 8 fixtures I think there may be a problem with the dmx protocol's the coemar manual shows them as a 13 channel fixture while the ssl file shows it as a 6 channel fixture?
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Re: Opto Branch
TAP is correct. However you should have both 3 and 5 pin outputs. If you get a 3 to 5 pin turn around you can actually use all 8 outputs making it an OPTO BRANCH 8. works great.
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Re: Why dosen't Elation have a parts section
Rafael I was wondering why you dont have a parts section on all Elation fixtures? Like on American DJ's site even discontinued ones. The 8 active scans we have are still in use. They still look great and work well. Every now and then i pull them out and clean them and take care of any repairs.
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Re: DMX Operator 192
That def helped a huuuuuuuge amount. So basically there are 8 scenes on the 192. So I can only do 8 movements and changes total for 1 chase?
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Re: DMX Operator 192
no on the op u have 30 banks of 8 scenes each. and 12 chases that can hold up to 240 scenes. so basically u cna have 1 chase full to the max of 240 scenes which is like putting every scene u can record on the operator into a chase. so let me break it down even further for ya. u cna store any scene as many times as u want and in any order u want in a chase as long as don't go over 240 scenes but u can also continue on ur chase into the next one. i have done that and it works fine. do u know...
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Re: Help with buying the best controller
hello, i would apretiate any help from you guys. i have 12 colorsplahjr by chauvet, 8 par cans, and 4 fusion scans. i'm currently tempted to buy the Elation DMX operator Pro, seems it can do all the work, but i'm also looking at a sotware option, easy stand alone by nicolaudie with its cheapest version.... cant really aford any of the other suits. which of those two would you recommend? Thanks, is-REAL
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Re: Help with buying the best controller
sorry to keep bugging, but i'm new on all of these... can i run multiple scenes at the same time, say, fixtures 1-4 doing something, while 5-10 something else? plus the 8 cans?
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Re: Help with buying the best controller
Thanks. now, as far as lightning..i've got not very much experience. i'm trying to light up a stage which is 30ftx20ft. my setup will be, 8 par cans on the back, 2 scanners on the back each one on the sides, 3 colorplash jrs on each side of the front towards the band an the other 2 scanners in te front facin each other, so they'll cover the band and the audience... what do you think? will this give me a nice coverage, im specially concern with the coverage of the LEDs.. don't know if theyll...
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Re: Design 36 LED
I have took another look at a unit and in stand alone mode program 1- 7 have this neurotic strobing thing going on. This renders them almost useless in stand alone mode except program 8 unless your gig requires a neurotic theme I will ad a controller and look at the programs that way also
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Re: Design 36 LED
switch 7 and 11 on for stand alone mode. 1+7 on = program 1 2+7 on = program 2... All of the programs except #8 (seitch 1+3+7+11) have a strobe part that makes the program look bad. If this is intended then it seems like a mistake.
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Re: question about mixed lighting
This is probably a stupid question... but since all of the lights we own are not dmx, i have to ask :P What is the significance of whether a controller is intended for intelligent/fx/par cans? For instance, why is the operator pro not capable of running par cans except on the last 8 channels? The operator pro looks like it has a street price close to some pc-controlled systems i've seen. Would we be better off just lugging one of our laptops with us and running things that way?
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Re: question about mixed lighting
hey. actually there are no stupid questions here. we try to teach all we can to the customers so no worries about questions ok? also on the op pro the reason the faders are on the right side is just for convience of having two controller sides to the board it doesn't mean they are the last 8 channels. you can assign the pars cans dimmer packs to start at any channel on the board through your dimmer packs. if you wanna go for convience and low equipment carry around try compuware if you want...
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Re: Octopod 80 with Magic 260 profile?
hello lemon! welcome to the forums. i think the problem your running into is the magic 260 controls only 16 channels per fixture. so if u want to run all the octopods as individuals you would have to buy more pixel drives in order to achieve this. because to control one set of octopods individually u would need a console that allows up to 48 DMX channels per fixture. u see the pixel drive and all 8 pods are considered (as far as your controller is concerned) as 1 fixture in the DMX line.
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Re: Octopod 80 with Magic 260 profile?
thanks for your reply, so far I can control all 8 pods on one "fixture" second group on 2nd "fixture". is there any way to assign one pod to one fixture? the magic has 24 fixture buttons so theoretically could it be programmed channel 1-6 as fixture 1; 7-12 as fixture 2, etc? it seems pretty logical. According to dmx language or does the pixel drive override this? in 48 channel mode it allows for this, 6 ch per pod. Anyone else with experience or info?
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Re: Octopod 80 with Magic 260 profile?
Hi Lemon, Yes.. right now, you can control each pod individually. if you use the 48 ch. mode. So each pod will be 6 channels each. So pack 1 will start at 001 pack 2 will start at 049 pack 3 will start at 097 Ch 1 is rainbow ch 2 red ch 3 green ch 4 blue ch 5 strobe ch 6 chase If you use ch 6 to engage a chase of which you have 8 chases. ch 1 becomes speed time, and ch2 becomes fade time.
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Re: Octopod 80 with Magic 260 profile?
Hi Jingles.. That's actually incorrect. He can assign 1 pod per fixture button. in the 48 channel mode, basically every octopod becomes its own fixture with 8 channels to operate. so if he uses the alkalite profile on his magic he basically needs to set each fixture to be an alkalite fixture. so if he has 24 fixtures then he has control of each pod. Each pixel drive can be one fixture, two fixtures, 4 fixtures or 8 fixtures. Best regards,
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Re: Lighting Newbie
Hi Jpal, That's what the guys were trying to explain to you. Your controller does not have pre generated movements. The feature you are asking about is only found in the Showdesigner series controllers and Compu live software. In your situation you will need to record multiple scenes. for example, if you want a circle on the wall or cieling. you need to position the light in one spot..then record that position into a scene, you then follow the same process till you have made about 4 - 8...
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Re: Design 36 LED
I guess that is what i was waiting for it is a shame that 7 of the 8 programs are bad and that is that. I will be ordering the next twenty units sometime this week only i will be going with the Colorado1 from chauvet. I have ten of this units and the feature sets and service are way better and the price is $100+ better then the design 36. I am also starting to have problems with my design 60 units and will be shoping for another brand to complete my need for 15 more units.
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Re: Stage Pak 1 how to set up?
Oh man I can't tell you how much I laughed at that! Ok anyways, DMX, it really is a cool thing. Here are some basics. DMX stands for D igital M ultiple X . It is a way for each and every (DMX Compatible ) light, made by any manufacturer, to interact with an universal DMX controller. In a standard DMX protocol (called 512-DMX protocol) there are a total of 512 "channels" In order to get your lights to interact with the controller, you must address them. There are 2 ways (that I know of) that...
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Re: Stage Pak 1 how to set up?
Good job jthtiger! But flipper what ever you do DO NOT plug your DMX lights in to the DP-415!! never plug your DMX lights into a dimmer pack as it will ruin the the DMX hardware and motors in your intelligent lights. also i believe your stage setter 8 that came with your pack should have enough channels for your lights. but can u tell me how many pars you have/plan to use? let me know and i can be of further help. sincerely,
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Re: Stage Pak 1 how to set up?
on a side note. your spot 250 uses 6 DMX channel and the vue 3 uses 9. 9+6=15 DMX channels total. so you only have room for maybe one or two pars on the stage setter 8. might want to look into a bigger controller. like jthtigers DMX operator 192.
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Re: Octopod 80 Elation Policy be warned
January 2007 was the complete lightning installed in Dania Beach where my restaurant brandnew was becoming ready. The choice of the system was basically done by the professionals as the installer Sound & Lightning Ft. Lauderdale and his order to elation company. I only have had a fix amount for every thing which was paid after finishing the job. Couple of months later some of the lamps got discolered and I complaint. I was asured that they will be switching the plates and so were 6 of...
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Re: Operator Pro question
I mostly program individually, but now I do see a problem... If the fixtures were stacked this way, grouping the lights for on the fly manipulation would be pretty impossible. I use that function quie a bit to cut down on programming, and the fact that there are only 8 fixture chases. You can use the same chase with a different color and/or gobo and create a very different effect. One more question while I am at it. Is there any way to keep the lights grouped while changing scenes? With one...
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Re: Riva 80
Have I hit a snag here? CONTROL FEATURES • Must use Pixel Drive X • Maximum 8 pods per controller Riva 80 system - will I be able to tie each set of 8 into Compu Live 1024EC? http://www.elationlighting.com/product.asp?ProductIDNumber=1210&cat=Alkalite
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Re: Riva 80
Yes. have no fear you run your DMX through the pixel drives much kinda like a dimmer pack if you will but more suited for the rivas. you will still have all the control you need. for each set of 8 you get you will get a pixel drive with it. they are sold as a set of 8 anyways but you can purchase more individual pods as well as pixel drives. understand?
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Re: For Rain
FAR OUT! yes, with that stage (Northside Assembly) I will have 2 Design Spot 250 lights out front and a pair of DLED 38 MH lights as well. The stage might get 8 DLED fixtures but I'm pushing for a grid of 12 Acclaim X-EYE HD lights(RGB and a few Cool White). Thats the start anyhow. LOOKS GREAT!
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Re: Demo Download?
WHEW - Im a bit overwhelmed but I think its because Im on a tiny notebook. Gotta hook up to a couple of 20" flat panels to get all these windows open. Will the demo let me put the 3D model you made in it? Client wants to use Design Spot 250 (2), DLED 36 (8), DLED MH (2) and Im working on getting him to use the software over the ShowDesigner board. (I'm also trying to get him to drop the DLED fixtures in favor of Acclaim X-EYE HD lights too.. about 12 of them) Will the demo let me put these...
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Re: Demo Download?
I got the two columns in but I still got to mail it to you. I will do that tonight. After 8 pmcebtral time ok? Sincerely,
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Re: Design 36 LED
Hi PU.. Believe me, I am also glad our R&D department jumped on it. I just wished they would have told me, instead of telling me they couldn't. We will have lens kits for them as well, but it looks like a 15 and 45 degree kit. I know they are working on an 8 or 12 degree lens kit, but nothing yet. FYI.. Price on the DLED 36 went down a few dollars so you'll be able to get a better price, and we are introducing the DLED 108IP, which is a DLED 36 with K2 Leds, and IP65 rated. Send me an...
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Re: Design 36 LED
Yea, going in two diff. churches. (order will be for Magnolia Music Center - Gulfport, MS) We are new so I'm sure we have to pay for it all up front a few times before we get "terms". HAHA! 8 DLED 36, 2 DLED MH, and 2 Design Spot 250 fixtures go to one church. 10 DLED 36, and 2 Design Spot 250 fixtures go to another church. Both will go Compu Live for control. (and yes, James has laid out one 3D for me and might be working on the 2nd one soon) Plan on having both installed and trained by...
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Re: Design 36 LED
Our rep, Jeff Mathis, suggested that controller. The lights will be 8 Par64 LED PRO and 4 American PAR56 (with a DP20L dimmer pack). Most church will do is change colors on the LED and dim the PAR56 fixtures. True that the Magic 260 will run both kinds of lights?
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Re: SS8 Question
the stage setter 8 isnt really built for a DMX inteligent fixture. could you consider getting a new controller or swapping out the SS8 for something else?
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Re: dxm operator pro
If you are running DMX 500+ feet, I would highly recommend a DMX Branch or Opti Splitter of some sort. More then 1000' and you will need one because the signal drops off at that point. An opti-splitter does more then isolate. It also helps amplify DMX signal like a DA (distro amp) does for video. The isolation also isn't for lighting strikes, it helps if you have faulty power or your console and fixtures are running off of a different ground. This can cause problems just like in audio,...
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Re: dxm operator pro
32 max is pushing it. I generally start having problems with LEDs at 8 fixtures, depending on length of the run and fixtures in question. Dimmers, I daisy chain those things forever and they don't care, and I am talking racks upon racks upon racks. Movers, depends on the brand and length of cable in question. Some days it's 16, others it's 20, sometimes I can only get 6 on before the 7th starts acting up. If your last fixture in line is acting funny, and a terminator isn't helping, chances...
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Re: DMX Controller Rec for DJ Scan 250
My DMX is to difucult for James. James, I think you need to order a preprogrammed DMX partner from American DJ for the DJ Scan 250. They already have this as a shelf item. 8 buttons for programms and an off button. Best regards,
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Re: Is there a 250 spot that will mix color like this?
bdunard, Yes, a wash will be about from 40 brighter than a spot. You have a lot more light being projected along a bigger beam of light. However, that's all a wash fixture does.. color change.. but the beam of light it projects is impressive. Most rigs require a 1 to 1 ratio where you have 1 wash to every spot. So if you have 8 Spots you should also have 8 washes. But with the Frost filter of the Design Spot's it helps resolve not having to buy so many washes. Still the wash effect of a...
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Re: What are some other uses for moving heads at weddings?
I definitely know how important lighting is to a wedding...however it's hard to sell a mom on some lights on a band. However, I have found it easier to sell the mood of a room, their name on a gobo, a spotlight on the first dance, uplighting the backdrop or rear wall the same color as the bridesmaid dresses...this is the stuff that makes sense to the purchasers. However, I want the lights for the show! On a side note...I went to demo a design wash 250, and design spot 250 today. If found out...
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Re: Newbie looking for help/advice
Yes, what you are describing are what a console would call a scene. A Scene is just a bunch of lights recorded (saved) to look a certain way when you bring up that scene. So for example, if you made scene 1 nothing but blue lights, when you hit scene 1 the blue lights would come on. If you made scene 2 red lights, the red lights would come on with scene two. If you made scene 3 red and blue lights, both the red and blue lights would come on when scene 3 is up. A series of scenes is called...