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Re: scene setter 24 dmx channel addressing

Carl N ·
Luis, I have tried that numerous times. Granted , it has been about 10 years since I have used DMX lighting. My last controller, An Election was a breeze to address. This is my second Scene Setter 24 in four weeks. The first one my salesperson and I assumed was defective. Now, for many years I have used XLR mic cables and I am learning that they may not work with todays new lighting components. I am assuming there is quit a difference between XLR and DMX cabling... So, I presently have...
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Re: E-Builder

Quadrifoglio ·
Thank you for the immediate response! I have a rental company and have used emulation for years now. I think it's been a year that cuelux started support of the emulation cables and for a brief moment I used it. The thing is that the ''FINE'' movement position does not work for the last 2 versions at least. When we are at a wedding we need to follow the couple with a moving head and witout fine the rotary pan of the midicon cannot control it smoothly. I have e-builder installed on all...
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Re: Compu Pro 06?

Jingles8302 ·
well on ur fade toolbar there is a lil box that u have to check in order for it ot work on that scene. also are u adding a time in the second blue and red box? i think those are for fade and hold out times. if anything try putting no time in the last red box. i will mess with this on mine and get back to ya. peace! jingles!!
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Re: Compu Pro 06?

Jingles8302 ·
hmmm. well everything i have tried last night worked fine. but i think cause ur not using those lights in that scene they are just goin to their home positions cause they are not being used. what do the lights do when they snap off? do they go back to their home positions or what? are u using real lights with this software or using just the 3D viewer?
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Re: Compu Pro 06?

ebaclights ·
I have 5seconds in the first fade box(fades in just fine) and I have 5 seconds in the last fade box (does not fade out)
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Re: Compu Pro 06?

Jingles8302 ·
try putting the last 5 sec. in either the first or second RED boxes. and i will do the same and let u know what works for me!
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Re: Compu Pro 06?

Jingles8302 ·
ok i got it! what u want to do is put a 5 sec fade time in the second blue time box. the one with the solid blue line going up and then u want to put the last time (fade down) in the last red time box. the one with the solid RED line going DOWN! ok? try that and let me know!
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Re: Help w/ DMX addys

homeboy ·
The first pack should have only the first dip switch up and the second should have only the first and third up. This will make the channel 1 for the first and 5 for the second, thus covering all 8 channels you want. No, you can't separate the two plugs so you get 8 channels out of each pack, its strictly 4 channels. However, yes you can add more packs and "piggy back" or "daisy chain" (which ever term you prefer) off of the DMX outs from the last dimmer pack. You should already be doing this...
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Re: need to know???

Jingles8302 ·
mikey g could u please plese please make a video on how to do what jon is describing for channels patch using the profile u created for me on the colorsplashes. i think i am close but it still is not working. with the code that i am entering the last three channels ae not being patched to the output. please help! things are starting to progress and i need to use this fixture. please? THANKS SINCERELY JINGLES!!
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Re: powerspot 250 lenses

elationpro ·
Alright guys, I read throught the manual and could not find the lens replacement section. The last pages of the manual give a maintanane schedule saying that the outside optical lense should be cleaned monthly, but nothing about replacing lenses every two years. Help me out here. Here is a link to the manual: Power Spot User Manual Best regards,
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Re: powerspot 250 lenses

elationpro ·
Yes.. Your right!! You got me on this one. It says that you need to change the lens. However after years of working with these lights I wouldn't worry about it much. These lenses last years!!! Now if you have them in an enviorment with alot of smoke, cigarete smoke and daily use like a club or bar, then this lens will take a lot of abuse and replaceing it will improve your output. But if your a mobile guy doing shows on the weekends, I wouldn't be to concerned about replaceing this lens.
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Re: Help with DP-DMX-20L and DP 415 dimmer packs

steveperry ·
Thank you. Found the issue. I was attempting to address the DP415s as one channel each rather than 4 like the DP-DMX-20Ls are capable of. Once I fixed that issue and found a cabling issue everyhing started working. I appreciate the reassurances! Just some additional background on me. I was unsure about this as this is the first time I have ever had to do an install rather than just walk in turn on a board, plug in DMX lines and begin programming. It has been two years since I last used the...
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Re: Basics of Compu Live 06

d-rey ·
I spoke to someone from elation support last night and they were able to email the correct ssl file and actually walked me thru the basics of adding the fixtures and programming scenes how do i create a spotlight program i created a scene that blacks out one fixture and points the other toward the center of the floor and used that x/y field to move it, i wanna know if there is a way that i can have 2 fixtures pointed at the same area and follow the other
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Re: Compu Live Questions

matchless1 ·
John, 1. I changed the degree angle from 630 to 540 on the light. I even reset the pan motors on the light. Unfortunately, this did not affect the "home" position of the light. It looks like I'm still off by 45-90 degrees on the pan. 2. Also, I did invert the pan last night to get the movement direction corrected (i.e. Clockwise vs. Counter Clockwise pan). So anyway, ?????, still can't get my "home" positions to match the viewer. And, yes, it does affect every movement in real life after...
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Re: Stage setter 8 question

waynek ·
Thanks for the response. We use 2 elationdmx20l dimmer paks on separate circuits, 4 par cans on each, and to the best of my knowledge the dmx line is terminated properly. I don't believe we are exceeding the maximum load as the lights worked fine all last year.
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Re: compu 2006

evolution78586 ·
Hey Guys, last night i had a show and the compu program ran good! It gave me that shutdown message one time the entire night (3hrs) but im stiil having a problem with one fixture (spot).When i click center so that all the lights can face up, that one fixture faces the front (sound guy)I've tried the RPAN and RTILT and it stays the same.Last night i also ran into a prob. with another spot. I was getting a RSER message from it.I wasnt able to use this fixture last night.Another thing towards...
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Re: compu 2006

evolution78586 ·
Thanks jingles.First of all I have 6 Power Spot 250 and 4 Power Wash 250..Is there anyway to edit that one fixture when I'm creating the page for the spots? you know, after it ask me to enter the DMX address and the # of fixtures then it takes me to the next step that asks me if all the fixtures are on and facing up. My concern is, if i edit just the center button once the page is created,the fixture s still gonna be out of sync with the other pre set cycles/scenes. The fixture giving me the...
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Re: RSER message

evolution78586 ·
sup guys! Just wanted to let you guys know that i called Elation service center today and i explained my situation and they told me try some stuff and well in the end turns out the main circuit board (mother board) is burnt.Due to a power surge that happened the last time i used the lights. I didn't think it was that cause all the other lights work fine.anyways got the part ordered.I'll let you guys know what happens when it gets replaced.Again thanks for everything.
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Re: Out of sync Power Spot 250

evolution78586 ·
Ok guys, I set up my lights last night and that one light is doing the same thing.I tried addressing it with an address of a fixtures that does center the way it should and it still didnt work...it stayed the same.I still use the light like that but it looks kinda wack cause it dosnt move in sync with the other lights.I have full control of it other wise (color, pan ,tilt, gobo etc.)but its just out of sync with the other lights on all the preset movements? Any ideas?? Thanks Again Sergio
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Re: Out of sync Power Spot 250

evolution78586 ·
Na jingles...We had a show last night and everything got loaded in the truck, we have a show 2mro but we're not setting up lighs.So maybe Monday i'll get a chance to try that jingles.I really hope that does the trick.I'll let you know, thanks.....
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Re: Compatibility Issue solved.

pulighitng ·
Mike, This may not help but i have ran into an issue like this once before in a much larger system and i found that moving the dimmers so that they are the last thing in the DMX chain and termanating at the dimmer fixed it for me.
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Re: Compatibility Issue solved.

mikekirkpatrick ·
I GOT IT!! I was using the auto patch feature so I was confident of the addressing. I didn't realize there was a pre program for the DP-DMX20L. I was using the generic 4ch program and the dimmers didn't like that. Changed the program and put the scan's last in the chain and PRESTO, we now have stability. I also moved the scanners addresses further away from the dimmers. Thanks for all the suggestions. Hopefully I can return the favor someday.
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Re: Compu DMX In problem

Jingles8302 ·
are you terminating the last fix. in the line? stupid question i know but i got nothing! lol. if anything tomorrow when you get a chance call our service department and see if they can help you. i have never tried hooking my 2048FC+ up to my dmx operator yet. sorry. jingles!
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Re: I Can't Decide!!!!

choirboy ·
This is in a chruch and I will be running all the house lights this way as well as any concert or theatre type lighting up front on the stage. There are 12 rows of house lights, each 600w per row. I want to be able to dim them individually so they will stay broken into the same sets they are now, just putting a dimmer in the line. I also have 4 can lights for the stage that are 1000w each. I looked at the Elation DP-DMX20L last night at the store and I was surprised that right on the front...
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Re: question about mixed lighting

mrkeyz ·
This is probably a stupid question... but since all of the lights we own are not dmx, i have to ask :P What is the significance of whether a controller is intended for intelligent/fx/par cans? For instance, why is the operator pro not capable of running par cans except on the last 8 channels? The operator pro looks like it has a street price close to some pc-controlled systems i've seen. Would we be better off just lugging one of our laptops with us and running things that way?
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Re: question about mixed lighting

Jingles8302 ·
hey. actually there are no stupid questions here. we try to teach all we can to the customers so no worries about questions ok? also on the op pro the reason the faders are on the right side is just for convience of having two controller sides to the board it doesn't mean they are the last 8 channels. you can assign the pars cans dimmer packs to start at any channel on the board through your dimmer packs. if you wanna go for convience and low equipment carry around try compuware if you want...
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Re: vista......

Jingles8302 ·
hey man. did i help you out last night?? peace. jingles. let me know.
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Re: Hey Guys!!! I'm Back . . . again

tylerherron ·
Hey John, yes I am in high school but during the summer I tour with a contemporary Christian artist named David Phelps. Right now I just help out with the lighting but this christmas tour was our lighting guys last tour so I may start doing the lights for them during the summer!!! I'm very excited! jthtiger
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Re: Hey Guys!!! I'm Back . . . again

tylerherron ·
Yeah I live in a small town called Bodcaw, Arkansas. It is about 20 miles from Hope. That is where Bill Clinton and Mike H. (i dont know how to spell his last name) were born! jthtiger
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Re: Stage Pak 1 how to set up?

tylerherron ·
Oh man I can't tell you how much I laughed at that! Ok anyways, DMX, it really is a cool thing. Here are some basics. DMX stands for D igital M ultiple X . It is a way for each and every (DMX Compatible ) light, made by any manufacturer, to interact with an universal DMX controller. In a standard DMX protocol (called 512-DMX protocol) there are a total of 512 "channels" In order to get your lights to interact with the controller, you must address them. There are 2 ways (that I know of) that...
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Re: Octopod 80 Elation Policy be warned

ben ·
January 2007 was the complete lightning installed in Dania Beach where my restaurant brandnew was becoming ready. The choice of the system was basically done by the professionals as the installer Sound & Lightning Ft. Lauderdale and his order to elation company. I only have had a fix amount for every thing which was paid after finishing the job. Couple of months later some of the lamps got discolered and I complaint. I was asured that they will be switching the plates and so were 6 of...
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Re: EasyShow

nickcarbone ·
well, i have about 100 scenes of a crazy variety of lengths throughout each song... i was wondering if i could select all the scenes and their locations for each song, cut and paste them wherever i want, for instance if i insert another song in the middle of the setlist, i have to move the last few songs down a couple minutes to line them back up.
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Re: Compulive Update

elationpro ·
I would think that you have some bad files..Try uninstalling last version, then in you C: drive look for a folder named SL2006.Delete this folder, then reinstall the software.Make sure you back up your work before you do all this.Save your work on the Desktop so its easy to find.Best regards,
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Re: Chauvet LED-PAR83 Profile

Jingles8302 ·
well you can shoot me an email or you can give me your email and I can mail you the color splash profile. My email is James k at elationlighting DOT COM. p.s. when did we speak last summer?
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Re: Chauvet LED-PAR83 Profile

djheydt ·
Jingles: My email address is dheydt@westriv.com so if you want to try and email me a profile at that address, that would be fine....but my home computer is not working very well....but give it a shot, if not I can have you email it to my work place or my computer man...I think I emailed you on one of the other forums last summer, I had some questions concerning programming and the easy show time line program (dragging and dropping scenes) which I will work on later...Thanks...Dennis
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Re: basic console programing

serraava ·
Out of order isn't as much a problem on cue lists as one may think. As long as you label stuff and are fast, the 'Go to' button is your best friend. I did a dance concert last year with about 500 cues, and it went in a different order each night. So I named each scene and programed in blocks. Like scene one was cues 10 thru 19 with 19 being the blackout, allowing me to record pre-load cues from 19.1-19.9. Worked well. It also gave each number a block of cues that lined up numerically cue...
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Re: dxm operator pro

tylerherron ·
Welcome to the forums Snakeman! All you have to do is daisy chain all of your fixtures together. It doesn't matter what order you do them in, just try to find the shortest path. If your DMX run is longer than 100ft it is advised to terminate the last fixture. You don't need a DMX branch or opti splitter. Just come out of you board into the first fixture, out of that fixture and into the next, etc. etc. Also you may want to take of your e-mail address or seperate (robjan AT telus DOT net) it...
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Re: Scene Setter 48 issues, less than 1 year

worldcreator ·
So what should be the typical lifespan of these SS48s? I'm actually looking for something that will last at least 5 years without any problems. Thats why I'm thinking I probably should just spend the extra money to get something more professional. Such as an NSI or Leprecon.
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Re: Scene Setter 48 issues, less than 1 year

elationpro ·
Hi World.. Elation guy jumping in here. in the world of consoles in general the faders and buttons you commonly use will need to be replaced sometime or another.. sometimes sooner than later. With the Elation consoles we strive to use the good components to do the Job and not the best component made.. That is why you will see some lighting consoles for alot more money than the Elation product, and some consoles for less money. We believe our consoles are a great value for the price. However...
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Re: Design 36 LED

elationpro ·
PU.. i will have them soon.. still not here yet. I may have them on monday. We did another modification to them, so I postponed them to get you the best chip. We are now adding Rosco Colors to the Color macro channel instead of just rainbow. So, I figured it be worth the wait. Best regards,
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Re: dxm operator pro

serraava ·
32 max is pushing it. I generally start having problems with LEDs at 8 fixtures, depending on length of the run and fixtures in question. Dimmers, I daisy chain those things forever and they don't care, and I am talking racks upon racks upon racks. Movers, depends on the brand and length of cable in question. Some days it's 16, others it's 20, sometimes I can only get 6 on before the 7th starts acting up. If your last fixture in line is acting funny, and a terminator isn't helping, chances...
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Re: DMX Duo

lightech ·
Not to rob Jingles of business, but I think it would be beneficial for you to just buy a small DMX controller that will allow YOU to program your own scenes and chases. For one, you will learn a lot about DMX lighting and how to accomplish many different things. Plus, you will be able to modify, remove, and add to your current banks of scenes and chases without having to rely on someone else providing designs for you. You will then know how it all works inside and out, plus have the...
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Re: Is there a 250 spot that will mix color like this?

bdunard ·
Ok, last question before I go to bed. Since I don't have any moving head fixtures just yet it was hard to justify buying the software. However, I threw up some of DLED 36's and I can do some great effects with these that are not possible on my show designer 1. Ok tell me how to accomplish this in the real world. 1. I want to create a dimmer chase for Design LED 36's that I can save and then overlay on any of my other static DLED 36 scenes. i.e. Say I have 3 scenes programmed for my DLED's.
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Re: Newbie looking for help/advice

christianpyro ·
Thanks for the explenation, it really helps me understand this stuff better, and what I need to get. so does this mean that you have 96 pages for each book or 96 pages total for all 8 books put together? And you mentioned the DMX opereater Pro. Is this a good controller? It seems to have everything on it that I would need. And how hard is it to program these "pages". Does it require the use of a computer program such as compulive or can I do it simply and manually? (I understand if you don't...
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Re: Newbie looking for help/advice

serraava ·
Yes, you have 96 pages that you can add to 8 different books in different ways for each book. The console doesn't say how many pages per book, so I assume you can use as many as you want. Don't quote me on it though. Sometimes you will see something like number of steps per show or chase. So if it says 40 Steps per Show, that would mean each of your books can have 40 pages in it, but you can make up 96 different pages to use in the case of the DMX Operator Pro. Don't think of CompuLive so...
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Re: ETC Express Profile for Design Spot 250?

chrislang ·
I honestly just got the ETC console last week so I am still reading up on everything (I had a Strand board before). I realize the ETC board isn't going to be ideal for programming movers, but they represent a pretty small percentage of my lighting inventory. -Chris
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Re: DMX Programmer Question

serraava ·
First question, depending on the LEDs in question, yes, funny things can happen when you first fade up the first scene. For example, if using the marco commands for color/programs, when you first start, it has to fade through the other before getting to where you want it. The fix for this is easy, write a scene before your first, and set the LEDs with the dimmer channel off. The next scene, keep the LED settings the same, but bring up the dimmer. This should solve the problem. You can also...
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Re: DMX Programmer Question

djargyx ·
SerraAva, Thanks. Great suggestion on the initial blank scene. I'll give it a shot. That might just be the trick to get around the scenes staying up together as well (the last question), although I still hope to get some additional info on that functionality. I hadn't thought of keeping some lights off the show. I think I have a bad habit of always keeping units selected, even when not active, and that's probably made me think I couldn't. I'll try keeping some units off and manually working...
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Re: Design 36 LED

pulighitng ·
I received the chips and installed one today. The Pre program fx are much better. How do I use the color macro channel the get Rosco colors as mentioned? Also FYI the seven channel trait sheet is up on the web and is there a new manual update?
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Re: Pan Limit on DS250

Jingles8302 ·
tell me have you changed any of the values for re INIT button? Because when you create a scene it included the valued of the last active scene or switch which if you have INIT on it will include those values. Also lf the problem still persist try clicking on "link all channels to east step function" it should be a small square button on the upper right hand side on the easy steptab when you edit or create a new scene or switch in the edit window. Let me know. Sincerely,
 
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