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Re: Stage Color PARCAN Mix Wide Angle Lens
Jim, If the unit you are talking about is the Stage Color, then yes they are the same lenses as the Opti Par, they just snap inside the front of the Stage Color. You can order these parts directly from Elation Service 866.245.6726 Part numbers are: Opti/LN - Narrow Opti/LM - Medium Opti/LW - Wide Thanks!
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Re: Show Designer
hey wassup? and welcome to the elation lighting forums! first off for the sd1 and par cans and effects. meaning non dmx fixtures u will need dimmer/ switch packs as well. what they do is u can plug ur effects and pars cans to them and depending what fixtures u have they will either dim the cans or turn on and off the effects that u have. but don't ever try to use a dimmer on a effect light cause it really need to be just shut off and on dimming them could decrease lamp life i think. also...
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Re: powerspot 250 lenses
Hey John I think you should send us all Elation Black Satin Jackets for that find. Only Kidding I seen you at the NAMM show again this year. I was sorry to hear about SMOKIN JOE The Power Spots are working great I used them for a Bowling for Soup show with 8 active scans and 50 par 64's I will be running the same set up for this weekend for two good local bands Take care. FLASH / Pete Wrobel
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Re: dmx profiles
Hi Gary, You wouldn't need a profile for a dimmer packs. Dimmer packs are generic and don't have any special values, say colors or gobos or prisms. All you need to do is go to the generic page and use a par 56 or par 64. So if you have a 4 ch dimmer as you do with the dp-dmx20l you will use a par 56 then say you have 4 units. If you have a 12ch dimmer say like the Elation RMD-1210 you will use a par 56 and then put that you have 12 fixtures.
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Re: pics of my designs on compuware.
hey flash i was just messing around with like 16 of those demo moving heads. you know the one that load up when you first install the software. i just love those. and i got another 16 performance scans spread out across the stage as well as over 10 (forgot how many lol) par 64's flash let's see some of your renderings my brother!! LOL. i am curious to see others work on compu. peace! jingles!
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Re: Compu Live Questions
Hi John, Thank you for your responses as well. 1. I tried what you said and made my chase a Scene using Easy Step. After that I was able to control the speed via the Live Button Toolbar. So, in other words, I did not need to do anything further using Easy Time. I tried it any way (yellow button making the channels Easy Time), but it just seemed to mess up my chase, so I went back to making all channels Easy Step. I notice that the F7 and F8 keys allow me to adjust the speed up and down. Is...
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Re: Stage setter 8 question
Thanks for the response. We use 2 elationdmx20l dimmer paks on separate circuits, 4 par cans on each, and to the best of my knowledge the dmx line is terminated properly. I don't believe we are exceeding the maximum load as the lights worked fine all last year.
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Re: Help with buying the best controller
12 par 64, 4 trackspots and 3 martins, puts you at 19 intelligent fixtures and 16 conventional fixtures. It sounds as if you buy the operator, you can get away with using the operator and nsi 6128 and not use the universal controller. Or if you want to go with one board, you will need the SHOWDESIGNER 3. If that to big, you may want to consider Compu 1024EC. Not many consoles offer controll of 16 par cans with moving lights.
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Re: Help with buying the best controller
hello, i would apretiate any help from you guys. i have 12 colorsplahjr by chauvet, 8 par cans, and 4 fusion scans. i'm currently tempted to buy the Elation DMX operator Pro, seems it can do all the work, but i'm also looking at a sotware option, easy stand alone by nicolaudie with its cheapest version.... cant really aford any of the other suits. which of those two would you recommend? Thanks, is-REAL
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Re: Help with buying the best controller
I think you hit it on the nail with DMX operator pro. I believe this will easily do what you want. Software is ok also, but the easystand alone will not allow you to run your color mixing LED's and have the par cans stay on at the same time unless you program that into the scene. Easy stand alone will probably be easier to get started on. its pretty simple. Best regards,
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Re: Help with buying the best controller
Nope.. you can only run 1 scene at time. but the par cans run seperatly. So you can have a show or scene on, and the par cans at the same time.
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Re: Help with buying the best controller
Thanks. now, as far as lightning..i've got not very much experience. i'm trying to light up a stage which is 30ftx20ft. my setup will be, 8 par cans on the back, 2 scanners on the back each one on the sides, 3 colorplash jrs on each side of the front towards the band an the other 2 scanners in te front facin each other, so they'll cover the band and the audience... what do you think? will this give me a nice coverage, im specially concern with the coverage of the LEDs.. don't know if theyll...
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Re: Help with buying the best controller
yes, thats the size of the stage. they'll be hand from a 'tree' .. 9ft high. they'll be aiming at the band, which will be at the center and front parts of the stage. for the par cans, they'll be at the backpart of the stage, aiming at the guitar player on the left, bass at the right and the drums in the middle. will this do?
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Re: Replacing my controller
Forgot to mention, for now it would be controlling 6 mac 250's, 24 par 56's and 16 pinspots. In the near future all the pars are being replaced with LEDs.
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Re: I Can't Decide!!!!
well if it says it can handle it then it should be able to. just make sure you don't put more than one par on each channel. also exactly how many rows of lights are you talking about? like how many of the DPDMX20L's are you gonna need? curious is all. peace! jingles.
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Re: question about mixed lighting
We'll now that I think about it, I don't think the DMX Duo will work. its intended for Intelligent lighting on one side, and effects lighting on the FX buttons. This customer has effects lighting, and par cans.. So his best bet would be Dmx operator pro. He can create chases for his effects lights on one half of the board and par can chases on the second half of the board.
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Re: question about mixed lighting
This is probably a stupid question... but since all of the lights we own are not dmx, i have to ask :P What is the significance of whether a controller is intended for intelligent/fx/par cans? For instance, why is the operator pro not capable of running par cans except on the last 8 channels? The operator pro looks like it has a street price close to some pc-controlled systems i've seen. Would we be better off just lugging one of our laptops with us and running things that way?
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Re: Lighting Newbie
Welcome to the forums! For the dimmer packs, whatever address you set it to (129 for your example) tells you all the address for each light. light one will be 129 and light 2 will be 130, 4 - 131, 5 - 132. so just use the faders (channels 129 - 132) to turn on the par cans. Make Sense? For the ADJ Accu Spot 250 II's, I'm not entirely sure how to do what your thinking but what I would suggest is to set some scenes and just recall your scenes. Set the first light to the left of the runway and...
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Re: Lighting Newbie
jpal welcome! and merry christmas. you could also try setting the light in the right on reverse pan and tilt. it should be either a feature on the op pro or you can do it on the lights in the system menu aswell. and the par cans was pretty well explained by jthtiger so i will leave it at that. if there is anything you dont understand or need further explaining let us know. peace! sincerely,
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Re: Lighting Newbie
I assigned the dimmer pack to A129 as stated in the manual. then i set the dimmer pack to work for only 2 channels. then i plugged in a par can light to channel 1 and another par can light into channel 2. as you said, the console should make the channel 2 light work on the next fader which is 130. but that's not whats happening. Fader 129 is turning on both of the lights, and fader 130 doesn't do anything. I know the next thing u guys might say is check what outlet im plugging the par can...
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Re: Lighting Newbie
I'm going to try the 4channel mode when i get to the studio... Also Jingles or jthtiger, do u knw how to localize where the acu spots focuses it lights, meaning if i am doing a stage program, how to get the lights to only play around on the ceiling, or only on the stage, or to go to the audience, and back and forth. or is this not possible. And back to Par cans, how can i get to chase mode with the console. I was looking for this but i couldnt find it. I wanted to be able to record a chase...
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Re: Lighting Newbie
ohh, ok thanks, i thought they were speaking of the par can. now has the acuspots 250II's had any problems b4 of overheating or just shutting off the power, bcause i used it for 1 program, and it shut off after a little while meaning the lamp shut off, and then it went to stationary position. Has there been any other complaints or worries like this.
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Re: OPTI 30 RGB
That is one Opti 30 RGB, all LEDs on. It won't out shine a 500w Par 56 or 500w 6", but it does keep up or out do a 120w Par 38. Also, beam is fairly tight as you can see in the picture. Sorry about the quality of the photo, done with a camera phone.
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Re: OPTI 30 RGB
Newman, keep in mind that the OPTI 30 is the small fixture. We also carry the OPTI RGB which is more comparable to a Par 56. You can read this article to get an idea. Sweet Sixteen Article in Live Design in December? http://livedesignonline.com/resourcecenter/howtos/howI/sweet_sixteen_lighting/ Best regards,
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Re: black lights
Continuing on now: The buzzing noise is known as lamp sing, it's caused by the power being turned on and off really fast. The way this is fixed is more expensive dimmers have what is known as a choke after the SCR so the power change is as dramatic as on/off. The better the quality of dimmer, the less lamp sing you will get. Now why non-dim isn't really non-dim. Despite you setting a dimmer to non dim, either via the pack or the console, the power still passes through the SCR and choke. So,...
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Re: SS8 Question
The problem sounds like the chase is effecting the channels your strobe is on. You need to edit the chases so they only include the PAR channels. Not sure how to do it on the SS8. Look at your manual. If you still can't figure it out or you are confused, drop another line and I will try and help you out. A strobe isn't really an intelligent fix, just easier to control with an intelligent controller is all. Should see some of the crazy things I have to do. For example, I am running an all LED...
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Re: Scene Setter 48 issues, less than 1 year
I always recommend the DMX Operator 192. Very good console. But since you are using the SS-48, i assume you are not using intelligent fixtures and running the classic PAR Can rig. I am correct? I still might recommend the DMX op. 192 because if you set it up right then you can still do the conventional lighting. Give me a little more information of the rig you have and I'll try to find a good console. jthtiger
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Re: design 108
You are correct bdunard in the fact that the Colorado is brighter then a DLED36 do to lack of a diffusion filter. I did a side by side of an Opti RGB and a DLED36 and the Opti was brighter, but had a much smaller beam then the DLED36. As far as DLED36 vs Tri64B, they might be about even at the same beam size do to the fact that the DLED uses Luxeons and the Tri64B doesn't. Luxeons are some of the best LEDs you can get, and are priced accordingly. They have a higher output per watt than other...
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Re: more easyshow screwups
i found my problem! the cursor!!! the drawing and scrolling with the cursor!! being that the onboard video card is sub par, the drawing of the cursor during playback was dragging. i disabled the option for drawing and scrolling and now it works fine... also took about 20% of my cpu usage. good to know!
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Re: design 108
I get what your saying. The problem I am running into now is if I should just go with a S4 par for the front wash lighting. If I do this I still need an LED light to add color when the S4's are off...this looks great when the singers aren't singing...you don't want them lit with a bright wash but you don't want them in the dark either. I wanted to find one fixture per side that would give me color and a good white wash. I bought the DLED 36WA but it doesn't give me a very good white. I...
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Re: Compu Live Question
I don't have an answer for you. I am new to this type of lighting control. I can't find out how to get started with the basic programing for 15 par cans, 3 RGB and 2 Elliosodials. Help. I also receive a message about a faital error. A second install have a problem with a flickering Pro Bar. It seems to destroy the bulbs. Any recommendations? Partime
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Re: Compu Live Question
Thats a good question. Here is what Partime has going on. A system consiting of house lights which are only a few DMX channels..6 I believe to be exact. When Compu is on everything is great.. That's because his LED par cans are recieving DMX.. When he switches to the simple X-fade, it is only activating 6 channels..The LED pars lose DMX and go into sound active mode. Using an AR 32 system will activate all 512 dmx channels. The problem is he bought the wrong controller for the Job. I'm...
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Re: Noobie question..
Rick welcome to the forums. if you want to run dmx led lights on the S.S. 24 you are really gonna need a larger controller. you CAN use DMX lights with the S.S. 24 but are limited to only 24 channels. each dmx led par is about 5 dmx channels. which means 4 of those leds if you like them to be run individually will take up about 20 dmx channels. if you give me your email i can send you a PDF document about the basics and how to run DMX. my email is jamesk AT Elation lighting DOT COM so send...
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Re: How do you select & Group of fixtures?
First off, as if you don't hear it enough, I'm new to the software and just moderately familiar with DMX and programming lights. Jingles, I have two 6 channel dimmer packs that I would like to group fixtures together. Do I just need to change where they are plugged into the dimmer pack and make it easy? Also, I have 8 LED PAR 64's and I would like to group them all together as well as other different groupings. I have 4 Intimidators and colorado 3's that I would like to groups in various...
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Re: How do you select & Group of fixtures?
E*dub if you have two dimmer packs i assume you are hooking par cans up to the dimmer pack and not the LED dmx lights correct? never plug a DMX light into a dimmer pack it will ruin the fixture. you can group any of your fixtures together as a group and are able to control them individually or as a group by creating a new group. to control them i believe you select the fixtures/group you want to control and then go to the fixtures pages and use the functions there. As i have said before the...
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Re: lighting que fades
ok just remember the second blue box works best for fades. the rest are for mainly par cans. Sincerely,
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Re: T16F controller - Control each channel individually?
And I should add... could the problem be that I do not have a DMX terminator in the DMX Out of the T16F? Here's the setup I have... Chauvet DMX-40B Controller > DMX Cable > DMX in of T16F with 4 par cans attached (1 in each plug)
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Re: DMX Operator Pro and MIDI
Thanks John. I wish I could step up to the showdesigner, but at that point, I would just get the 1024FC and have the timeline ability. Basically, I am only running 8 channels of pars, 4 scanners, and 4-6 LED PARS's so both the software and the showdesigner 1 are way overkill for as little as I have. Plus, fundage is pretty low. So I guess we are back to the 3 questions: Can you select par scenes/chases independent to moving light scene/chases? Can they be selected this way with MIDI as well?
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Re: DMX Operator Pro and MIDI
thanks everyone. I am going to really dig deep into the mydmx software tonight. I am fairly familiar with the compuware software so I hope it isn't to different. I would still like to have a couple questions answered about the operator pro though: Can you independently choose par scenes/chases from moving light scenes/chases? Is this the case with MIDI as well? If so, doesn't that give you thousands of combinations to choose from via simple midi notes? i.e. this par scene with this moving...
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Re: newbie question
I really need some help from someone Maybe one of you knows someone who would be willing to help me by drawing out a wiring diagrams of the dmx cale and how to set channels in the show designer 3. We have to mount 10 more lights this weekend and have 3 saturdays left till our first Sunday service and I need help This is what I have Show designer 3 12 -Elation Cyber Pak 4 channel dimmer 32- American par cans 16- Altman Ellipsoidals 6 -chauvet Colorado 3’s led cyc light 8 -chauvet L.E.D. par...
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Re: Master Switch Priority (CompuLive)
See, that's just it...I WANT the MASTER page to take full control. In this case it seems the fixture page takes control of only the color and gobo. I mainly use the MASTER page to control LED Par cans. I only have one Fixture page and I use it to control the Design Spots. In this case, I'm using a switch in the MASTER page to control LED Par cans as well as one Design Spot, so it seems like the MASTER page switch would take priority over a Fixture page scene. Jingles, I can't make the...
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Re: Photometrics
From the site: http://www.elationlighting.com/pdffiles/opti-tri-par-photometrics.pdf There is not a photometrics up on the WEB for the EX flood but it says it has a 40 degree beam angle. i dont know if that helps but there you go. Sincerely,
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Re: Programming Existing Scene Colors w/in a New Scene (CL06)
Jingles, Yes that is effectively what I'm asking. I can use the color manager, but I hope you can understand how much longer that will take: 1 scene = 20 steps x 16 PAR cans per step x 2 colors per step x 3 DMX values per color. 1 scene could take upwards of an hour when I'm talking about a lot of steps and lot of different colors. If what I'm asking is not possible though, I suppose that is what I'll have to do. You know how when you create a Cycle, you can just select the Scenes that make...
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Re: DMX Operator Pro and MIDI
I use the DMX Operator Pro with Midi trigger. It works great. I am actually trying to run a local band R n R show using a Guitar Pedal, but don't know if they actual have programmable Midi send notes to foot buttons (like a Midi keyboard.). Anyone know? NOTE NUMBER FUNCTION 23-34 FIXTURE PAGE 1-12 35-50 PAR PAGE 1-16 51-58 MOVING LIGHT SCENE 1-8 59-66 MOVING LIGHT CHASE 1-8 67-72 PAR SCENE 1-6 73-78 PAR CHASE 1-6 79 PAR STANDBY 80 PAR FADE + SPEED 81 FIXTURE BLACKOUT 82 FIXTURE AUDIO 83 PAR...
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Re: Understanding the DMX Operator
James and Chris, Thank you for your explanations. Being at entry level every bit of understanding helps alot. I can definitely tell now that any of the operator models will give me alot more control as compared to the stage setter 8, So I think a trade-in is on the near horizon. Chris I have a small set up right now just 8 par 36 LEDs I may add on a little later, but not much they are just for my band. With this small set up I can set the whole thing up in my basement and create the scenes,...
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Re: Newbie Question!
Thanks John, I really appreciate your feedback and input. Do you have any books/websites or other recommendations on how become better at programming lights? Also-if you were jumping into moving heads for the first time, what would you recommend as a minimum type of fixture? I'm going to have 2 placed behind the drummer. Also, what do you recommend to light the front of the stage at small venues? I have a bunch of pin spots, probably need to go with some par 64s or leds I suppose?
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Re: Newbie Question!
I can help with a few recommendations. What is the room size? and the height at which these fixtures will be mounted? For a beginner moving head i would go with 2 design spots 250. Led par cans Check out some of our LED par cans and if the price is too high check out American DJ's P64LED Pro. Oh and what is your budget? Sincerely,
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Re: Newbie Question!
For front light at smaller venues, I would lean more towards LEDs vs Par 64s. Par 64s can be lamped 500w, 600w, or 1000w. That is a lot of juice, and at smaller venues, power is often an issue. Check out the Opti 30 RGBs or the new Opti 30 Tri. If that is out of your price range, would look to the P64LED Pro like jingles said. For moving heads, again, DS250s are great fixtures. The might be out of your range however, so a Power Spot 250 would be a cheaper, yet still great quality alternate.
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Re: DMX OPERATOR CONTROLLER... Strobe help please...
COLORKEY LED Par 64 10mm V2 6 channel dmx and Deliya par 64 led 4 channel dmx. One at a time does the same thing. Singularly on a 2 foot DMX cable from the OPERATOR. Ive run speed and fade variations during and after playback still the same.It slows down even more when fade time is set to 0. It has an uneven strobe effect if fade is above 0. I am seeing about 15-20 fps when in program mode. I then either record the scene and remove the program button and the speed slows down to about 5 fps.