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Piggybacking controllers?

sasquatchproductionssasquatchproductionsMember
So, would it be possible to use a DMX Operator Pro as an external controller for Compulive without a MIDI connection? Like, could I set it up so both controllers work simultaneously with each other without over riding the other? I am currently using an opto split if this makes a difference...

-Ben
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elationproelationproMember
Heady,
the answer to your question will be NO.
you cannot set it up so they work simultaneously.
they are both controllers so they will conflict.

What you can do is use the DMX operator to work as a playback device.
you can use the faders to work as grand master dimmers and the scene buttons to activate (trigger) cycles and cues on the Compu.
sasquatchproductionssasquatchproductionsMember
Pro,

This is essentially what I want to do! Essentially, the Operator pro has a bank of triggers and pages on the left that I would like to program to correspond with scenes I have set on my Compu. So for example, on Pg.1, Scene 1 on the Operator, can I somehow program that trigger to correspond with say, a scene that corresponds to all red PAR cans on the Compulive? And susbequently, can I use an entire page on the Operator to use specifically for chase functions, another for pulses, so on and so forth...? Can I also use the Operator as a sort of "hard drive" to store scenes I use regularly, so I can free up space on my computer for more complex scenes? Thanks in advance for your help, hopefully this will work :/

-Ben
D digitalmikeMember
Hello,
I'm looking to possibly use my operator pro as a controller. I still use it for smaller gigs and I have been looking at a BCF2000 for audio use and that is what you have pictured in the controller section of the software. So I guess my question is a few separate parts:
#1 Would the operator pro lend me more overall control? (ie; are all the buttons and faders assignable?)
#2 Is the software designed to work more seamlessly with the bcf2000?
#3 Has there been any issues with using a touch screen monitor?
My thoughts with that would be to design a functional board on the touch screen so that you could actually "push" the buttons for a lot of free on the fly moves without messing with a mouse.
Or maybe all three. Using the controller for fade options or other assignables, the touch screen for a more global main control and reserve my laptops monitor for the 3D window.

Just wondering if anyone has tried any of this or any combination of it and had any notable successes or failures with any of these in a set up. Especially anyone tried the use of the touch screen.


Sorry for the length but I'm an info sponge!
J Jingles8302Admin
Hey digital mike. The BCF2K is a great midi controller for the Compu live software. I have used it and it work perfectly. Unfortunetly I have not had the chance to use the software with a touch screen ever. I hope to change that one day. to answer your questions as I understand them:
1) I don't think the DMX operator would be ideal as a midi or even a external device for control for the compu live program as there is no map for it in the software. This is where I would recommend if you already had a BCF2K to use it instead of the DMX OP.
2) Over the dmx op? Yes.
3) To my knowledge no. But if any other forum users know of any please let us know as we will try to fix it.
Hope this helps and no your post was not that long. I have read longer. Smiler
Sincerely,
W wheresjcMember
Hey Mike,

The DMX-in triggering is much less versatile than MIDI.

A BCF is a good basic console but I've experienced the downfall of their low cost before. Check out 'Akai MPD32' and 'Novation SL mkII zero' and 'Elation MIDICon'.

My Touchscreen (HP Compaq L2105tm) works flawlessly with CompuLive. If you set up your switches right, you don't have to design a digital console.
By the way, the console builder is a pain in the ass to use.

*Jingles, check out www . newegg . com for the Touchscreen I listed above. It's 21.5" OpticalTouch HD for under $275 with shipping.
sasquatchproductionssasquatchproductionsMember
quote:
Originally posted by jingles:
You can set up dmx input. And then you can assign scenes in compu to be triggered by a input channel being put into 1-255 value range. I do understand what your asking. I'm pretty sure it can be done through dmx input. Which model interface do you have?
Sincerely,


John or James,

Can you elaborate on this? Possibly with a tutorial using the controller? Thanks in advance!

-Ben
D digitalmikeMember
I also own a nano control and for what I'm doing with it, it should be fine. I would really only need it for a couple of simple controls. In my theorizing, I have figured that the touch screen would be perfect. And I had meant to say that the main screen of the compu live program would be my virtual controller, not to use the programs virtual controller.
Thanks for the quick response as always.
You will hear more from me I'm sure...
elationproelationproMember
quote:
Originally posted by Headyhiker:
Oh, sorry if I am reiterating obvious things you know about the controllers, I am just trying to be as specific as possible with my descriptions. Thanks again!


Heady,
sorry for delay in response. to answer your question yes you can use your dmx operator to do all you want.
However You cannot store any information from Compu into your dmx operator.
What your dmx operator is basically doing is sending a command to the compu. Compu will still hold all the complex scenes and shows.
however don't worry about memory space as Compu will take hardly any of your memory space.
elationproelationproMember
quote:
Originally posted by Digital Mike:
Hello,
I'm looking to possibly use my operator pro as a controller. I still use it for smaller gigs and I have been looking at a BCF2000 for audio use and that is what you have pictured in the controller section of the software. So I guess my question is a few separate parts:
#1 Would the operator pro lend me more overall control? (ie; are all the buttons and faders assignable?)
#2 Is the software designed to work more seamlessly with the bcf2000?
#3 Has there been any issues with using a touch screen monitor?
My thoughts with that would be to design a functional board on the touch screen so that you could actually "push" the buttons for a lot of free on the fly moves without messing with a mouse.
Or maybe all three. Using the controller for fade options or other assignables, the touch screen for a more global main control and reserve my laptops monitor for the 3D window.

Just wondering if anyone has tried any of this or any combination of it and had any notable successes or failures with any of these in a set up. Especially anyone tried the use of the touch screen.


Sorry for the length but I'm an info sponge!


Hi Mike,

If you already have a DMX operator use the dMX operator. if you are not happy with what it does, invest in the MIDI Con. we specifically designed the MIDI con to work seemless with both Emulation and Compu show. all other MIDI devices are for audio and not really designed for lighing.

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