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Using Compu switches inside scenes

T tonyharveyMember
Hey all,

Been using the Compu1024EC for a while now and getting it figured out.

Heres one.

I have some switches for a DS250 moving head light that target certain members of the band or parts of the stage. They read like Bass, Drums, Guitar, Front, etc. They are hooked up to only the XY parameters of the control.

These switches are 're-targeted' each gig to get the correct location at that venue.

If I want to make a chase that runs from bass to drums then guitar and back how can I use the values of these switches inside other scenes.

In other words. I'd like to tell it once where the drummer is and then have it look there in other scenes/switches. I don't want to have to fiddle with each chase refocusing each person.

If any of this makes sense please honk! Smiler

Thanks in advance for any thoughts.

PS I'm also using the Behringer BCF2000 midi controller and it's working pretty sweet. Anybody got any questions give me a shout.
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elationproelationproMember
Hi Tony,
This feature you are looking for actually exsists.
It is called a Focus Preset.

Meaning you create master scene positions. then you record all your scenes based on these master scene positions.
When you go to a different venue all you do is adjust the Focus Presets and all your scenes adjust to the new position.

Unfortunatly.. Compu Live does not have this feature implemented.
Its do to come out on a future release, but there is not way of doing this on Compu Live.

Best regards,
M misebeamMember
Confused
That’s too bad! I was Highly interested in this exact function, it gets hard going to different venues knowing that you are going to have to run thru some 100+ scenes to correct alignment on performers.

When do you think this feature release will happen?
I moved away from my show designer 2cf, in hopes that the Compu 2048 FC+ would have these capabilities.
elationproelationproMember
We've been pushing for this to be done years ago.
Howeve the current platform does not allow it.
The new platform should be done by the end of the year where we will finally see this feature implemented.
But I wouldn't ask you to hold your breath for it.
If this is a key feature you will be using, it may be best to consider a different program that offers you the feature you need.

Best regards,
T tonyharveyMember
Thanks John.

Keep pushing because it would be a very cool feature.

I'm a developer and I have no idea how they would do the interface. It would be very tricky!

If you are talking to development types I'd love to have the config files be in XML. That way you could spot issues and differences faster than having to wade through the app.

All told though it is a very cool little program and it still frequently amazes me (and only occasionaly frustrates me).

Thanks for the info.
J Jingles8302Admin
Tony, I am the compu live guy. Try this when you go to create a new master scene click the switch with the position you want to use. When the switch name window comes up make sure you click in the as you see now box and make sure the checkbox next to the position switch is checked. Now hit OK+edit and add color or gobo or whatever you want to add. Try that and let me know. Or if you have any questions. Thanks. Sincerely,
M misebeamMember
So just to make sure what you said Jingles, if we create a master switch like "Drums" or whatever with "as you see it now" and the call that switch in a chase, or a scene. So when we go to a new venue, all we have to do is edit that one switch with the new X-Y position for the new location. That sounds like it would work. Does that sound right?
That would be great!
J Jingles8302Admin
Well me and elation pro were discussing this a lot today. but once you enter in those switch values into a scene those current values will stay the same in the scenes as they currently are. so if you change the values in the switch it wont carry over to those previously made scenes. so back to square one it seems. i am gonna test this out tonight on my lights at home and ill report back. i guess i didn't fully understand Tony's initial question. Sincerely,
S serraavaMember
That would be a palette system. With a palette system, you save all your positions, beams, and/or colors. Then any scene or cue record using that palette will update automatically with that palette.

For example, if you had scenes and cues that used the same focus for drums, you can create a position palette called 'drums' and use that palette for drum cues and scenes, then record them. Now when you go to another venue, simply update the focus on the 'drums' palette, and it will automatically update all the cues and scenes using that palette. Same goes for colors and beam properties (gobos, gobo positions, focus, shutter, animation, zoom, iris, frost, beam shaper) too.

It is a very powerful tool, a time saver, and very useful. The problem is it is not cheap. It is generally only seen on high end desks, though that has since changed with the Ion.
M misebeamMember
Sure, I would love to hear about it. Right now all of my shows are in my Showdesginer 2, and I was slowly converting over to the Compu, but I did not know that feature worked. I tried saving focus presets, but it would always go back to the original position when I was running with scene "ad mode" or "pile on".

But yes I would love to see how to do it in compulive!
S serraavaMember
I didn't know that the SD2 and SD3 had that function John. Good to know, thanks.

I think at this point everyone calls it palette system/palettes (Focus Palettes, Color Palettes, Beam Palettes, or whatever the companies term is for each section, generally 3 or 4 sections). I know High End, Ma, ETC, and Jands call it this. Can't say for other companies though. It is what I know it as, can't say if it is right or wrong though.
elationproelationproMember
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Originally posted by SerraAva:
I didn't know that the SD2 and SD3 had that function John. Good to know, thanks.

I think at this point everyone calls it palette system/palettes (Focus Palettes, Color Palettes, Beam Palettes, or whatever the companies term is for each section, generally 3 or 4 sections). I know High End, Ma, ETC, and Jands call it this. Can't say for other companies though. It is what I know it as, can't say if it is right or wrong though.


Yeah.. it has all of those.. Focus Palettes, Color Palettes, Gobo Palettes and Effect Palettes, but really they can be anything you want them to be.. I'll just have it refrased as palettes and see what type of response we get.

Thanks Serra,

Best regards,

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