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Re: scene setter 24 dmx channel addressing
Luis, I have tried that numerous times. Granted , it has been about 10 years since I have used DMX lighting. My last controller, An Election was a breeze to address. This is my second Scene Setter 24 in four weeks. The first one my salesperson and I assumed was defective. Now, for many years I have used XLR mic cables and I am learning that they may not work with todays new lighting components. I am assuming there is quit a difference between XLR and DMX cabling... So, I presently have...
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Re: scene setter 24 dmx channel addressing
Carl, If the steps provided did not work, I suggest reviewing the instructions found printed on the bottom plate of the controller to verify that the steps provided match the "DMX CH. Assignment" setup, which is what you are trying to configure. Also, although XLR cables are physically an exact replacement of DMX cables, we do highly recommend using DMX cables, strictly for lighting. As far as addressing these lights, considering that the Scene Setter 24 is only a 24-Channel controller, it...
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Re: E-Builder
Thank you for the immediate response! I have a rental company and have used emulation for years now. I think it's been a year that cuelux started support of the emulation cables and for a brief moment I used it. The thing is that the ''FINE'' movement position does not work for the last 2 versions at least. When we are at a wedding we need to follow the couple with a moving head and witout fine the rotary pan of the midicon cannot control it smoothly. I have e-builder installed on all...
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Re: Roller Rink Wash with LED?
the lumen output of the design heads and led blinders is far too little for tryin to light a roller rink. trim height is 22 feet. those fixtures would get washed out instantly by all of the other lighting. But thanks for the try
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Re: Roller Rink Wash with LED?
Hi Mikey, I have a customer who did a roller rink using Power Spot 250's and mainly the power wash 250 and cmy zoom 250 to color the floor. These would normally be ok for 20' distances, We actually recomend 250watt fixtures for up to 35' If you wanted to use LED's the DLED 36 delivers the best light output in LED using 36 1w luxeon LED's with reflectors. Best regards, JL
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Re: spot and wash 250
do u have any control over the one that is moving on it's own? is there any type of light that tells u it is recieving a DMX signal? also i just checked and if u have the power spot and washes the spots are 15 channels which would mean the second one should start at A016. and if this is so is it panning and tilting on it own or just one or the other. can u tell me what u have and at what addresses?? i need to know if they are power spots and washes or what. and also if the washes are cmy or not.
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Re: Color mixing
Hi Jonathan, I agree, I love the CMY color mixing feature. However this makes a lighting fixture a lot more expensive. Also, its dificult to fit all of these features in a light. So at Elation we are working on incorporating this feature into most of our lights. In the 250 range, if we incorporate CMY in a spot, it will be a bigger light, and be as much as a 575. So if you are already buying a big light, might as well bump up to a 575 fixture. The Elation Design Spot 575e, will be one of the...
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Re: Need help w/ DMX Operator
Hi DJ, Yes it could be bad. If the DMX driver chips are damaged, then they will still work sound active. Try using your friends board and a light also to see if both your lights and controllers work. If it is DMX drivers, then you will have to send it in for service. No other way around it. Elation makes this device. DMX Branch 4. It is created to supress over voltage to the DMX signal. Once overvoltage goes through the line it takes everything out. However most people don't sell this or...
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Re: Some compulite questions
ok to adjust a circle movement: you create a blank scene and then you go ino edit and then you will click on the east time editor tab then once u do that u right click on the box that says "right click here to automatically create motion" and select automatic circle. assign how many points u want to then click ok. then once again right click on a pont in your circle and select shape properties. and then u can manaually adjust where you want the beam to stay within a certain area. understand?
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Re: need to know???
is there any way i an visualize the color mixing?? cause rightnow all it does is stay on like light green color?? it lets me move the faders but i cannot change the colors on the 3D window!! or could i maybe add the r,g,b, channels just every other channel so that way i can mix r,g,b on the visualizer?? cause my problem is the lights are in l.a. and i am programming from wisconsin!! that is my job with this guy he wants me to program using compuware and send the files to l.a.! cool huh??
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Re: Show Designer
hey wassup? and welcome to the elation lighting forums! first off for the sd1 and par cans and effects. meaning non dmx fixtures u will need dimmer/ switch packs as well. what they do is u can plug ur effects and pars cans to them and depending what fixtures u have they will either dim the cans or turn on and off the effects that u have. but don't ever try to use a dimmer on a effect light cause it really need to be just shut off and on dimming them could decrease lamp life i think. also...
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Re: powerspot 250 lenses
This is the answer I was looking for. See I had two lights on the floor one night and someone ran a mic cord over the housing so when the light spun around it got stuck and knocked the lens loose. I fixed and it is fine for now but I did notice that the lens looked a little imperfect. I think I will replace the lenses on this pair of fixtures then. Thanks, Tap
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Re: Compuware04 and SCX500's
Hi Gary, When a profile is created for lights, they are not always perfect because most of the time they are not tested with the light. Since compu looks for basic functions some lights may have odd functions that don't respond correctly to default funtions of the software. What you want to do is after the page is created go to the edit window of any button. Here you can have direct access to all the channels and you should be able to use the functions of all the channels. This will let you...
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Re: Scene to Scene Transition
Hi Christian, This is simple, the option will be in the controller rather than in the light you are using. You are looking for "fade time" You can set the fade time to be 7 seconds, and there you will have the 7 seconds you are looking for.
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Re: Help with DP-DMX-20L and DP 415 dimmer packs
Of course they are! Its all DMX it doesn't matter if there is two different dimmer packs or any of the dmx consoles out there will all be able to control anything dmx WHEN USED PROPERLY. I don't mean to be harsh, but how much do you know about your console? The fat frog is a pretty high end console, you need a lot to happen for just one slider to control one light, its very complicated. Have you checked the patch? are you in one scene mode or two? what about the universe settings, master,...
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Re: question about the vision scan 250!
Hi DJ, Those six lights are a nice set up. Your show will be looking good. What you need to learn is a few things to get going. 1. make sure you assing the right light to your fixture buttons. I'm not sure if the entour is in the memory of the magic so you may need to download the profile from the website and load it into your board using your U-link cable. If you don't have the u-link cable then you should get it. Once the fixtures are assigned the next step is to learn how to create 1...
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Re: Why dosen't Elation have a parts section
To whom it may concern, At this point in time Elation Service is limited on parts for the ACTIVE SCAN. That light has been discontinued for quite sometime and some parts are currently out of stock and on order. We do have the lamps in stock. The mirror and socket are also available. The main PCB's are currently out of stock and are on order. If you like to place and order for this lamp or any of these parts feel free to contact Elation Customer Support at 866.245.6726 (8AM - 4:30PM PST.)...
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Re: Stupid Question but help
thanks mate. u are a great help. well its 4 30 am here so i am off to bed and when i get up you will be sleeping so i wanted to ask u a couple more things i can check the answers to later and if you could answer them then it is much appreciated. 1. i accidentily crossed off the real time screen that shows you the stage and your light show how do i get it back 2. how do i add music to the programme 3 how do i set the lights to follow the music jingles i cannot tell you how grateful i am to...
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Re: White Balance issues
I have the ColorWash 575 AT. It came with a box that says orange module that goes into the light, but other than that, I'm not sure if there is anything to correct it. Thanks!
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Re: White Balance issues
Sorry, I just realized the light I've been trying to fix wasn't our Elation, but a Robe. Sorry. I figured it out on that model. Kris
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Re: Compu Live Questions
Jingles, Thanks for your help. I tried what you said, and here's what I found: 1. I do have my Cycle created under the Master page, so I tried using the Live Toolbar Button. I do see the size, dimmer and speed controls, but only when I have a scene (like Blue) selected. When I click my "Cycle 1" button, the size, dimmer and speed controls disappear and are replaced with the text: "Cycle: Cycle 1". It's like all of those features are being disabled b/c I'm running a cycle instead of a scene...
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Re: Compu Live Questions
Hi John, Thank you for your responses as well. 1. I tried what you said and made my chase a Scene using Easy Step. After that I was able to control the speed via the Live Button Toolbar. So, in other words, I did not need to do anything further using Easy Time. I tried it any way (yellow button making the channels Easy Time), but it just seemed to mess up my chase, so I went back to making all channels Easy Step. I notice that the F7 and F8 keys allow me to adjust the speed up and down. Is...
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Re: Compu Live Questions
Brian, I am really impressed on how you picked everything up. So to move forward, you can achieve the tempo your looking for by activating the Audio function in Compu Live. Step 1. In the "controller" drop down menu look for "Starting parameters". Then in the Options box, choose "Audio/Midi" and in this new window, click on the check box with the speaker icon. Then close all windows. You will be prompted to restart, and the Audio Analizer box will open automaticly. Minimize this for a...
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Re: Design Spot 250 Fade Issues
No im programming scenes for the master page. it just sucks because i don't want to have to go in and change the dimmer channel on every light in edit mode.. is there a faster way.. we do a lot of programming and we need to do it quick. im seriously considering buying a brand new console.. ive had way too many issues with this elation software.
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Re: Design Spot 250 Fade Issues
Ahhh! Ok.. Your starting from INIT. This makes sense as with INIT all values of the moving light are off. So when you fade on, every function is fading. In programming you need to get used to creating set up scenes. A set up scene is the scene you want to be active before your actual scene comes on. This is what I was talking about when I suggested to create the scene you want, and bring down all the dimmers. Record that as the scene. Position, color, gobo, but dimmer off. then simply turn...
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Re: Compu Live Questions
John, Thank you and Jingles for your help. It all really helped! I actually went ahead and ordered the program about a week ago. Today was the first chance I've had to make sure what I had programmed matched what actually happened. I have figured out most of the bugs, but there is still one I can't quite get: My 4 moving heads (Design Spot 250) initialize to a different position than what is shown on the visualizer. For example, in reality when I look at the MH's they sit on the ground in...
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Re: Compu Live Questions
well does it affect the actual light when programming? like when it is in the home position on ur real life stage does it move to where the head is positioned on the visualizer? also to edit a scene in init u need to turn on the fader. cause in init everything is locked down. so to edit ur init scene so that way ur heads are the same as u would on stage u need to click on init so that way it is on then hit ctrl and then hold down alt at the same time then left click ur init button. (you can...
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Re: Compu Live Questions
Hi Matchless, Yes, I know what your talking about.. and you have a few simple modifications to work with. 1. The Design Spot 250 has two pan degree settings. The degree is the amount of spin from left to right that the light can move. It should be set to 540 degrees on the light to match the 3D window. 2. Once this is done, then on the 3D window you may want to invert the pan and tilt to match the direction of the actual light. Here is a picture to help you find the pan and tilt inversion.
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Re: Compu Live Questions
John, 1. I changed the degree angle from 630 to 540 on the light. I even reset the pan motors on the light. Unfortunately, this did not affect the "home" position of the light. It looks like I'm still off by 45-90 degrees on the pan. 2. Also, I did invert the pan last night to get the movement direction corrected (i.e. Clockwise vs. Counter Clockwise pan). So anyway, ?????, still can't get my "home" positions to match the viewer. And, yes, it does affect every movement in real life after...
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Re: Compu Live Questions
Ok, I tried changing the rotation angle in the fixture library to 540, and it actually works: the "home" positions match! In fact, in the viewer, the head points down and away from me and the U of the yoke arms run left to right. So NOW that matches what I have in real life. I even went ahead and checked the actual degrees of rotation both in the viewer and in real life, and in both modes (540 and 630), the fixtures really do rotate the full range of degrees they're supposed to. It's just...
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Re: Compu Live Questions
Yeah, I guess I don't have a choice. It would be really nice though to see Elation somehow fix this issue with the DesignSpot 250 fixture profile. Why have the option on the light if you can't use it in real life with Elation software? Anyway, thanks again for your help John and Jingles. Thanks, Brian
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Re: Compu: RGBMix colorwheels disappearing!!
i wonder if u save just your lights page file in ur sl2006 folder and then re generate it and then copy and paste ur scenes files in the light data folder for the same fixtures, i wonder if it would work? does that make sense? so that way u get ur buttons regenerated and maybe still have ur work? might work?
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Re: Vision scan 250
I believe the front cover of the light is held by 4 screws. These are special 1/4 turn screws that allow the light to easily be opened for service or gobo change out and maintanence. Just get your self a philips head screw driver.
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Re: compu 2006
NO the one fixture is sitting on the floor facing the same direction as the other ones.I'm saying if i fix the problem in the center button it wont fix all the other buttons. This one light is out of sync with all the preset buttons.Yeah i read what the Rser message ment in the manual but i thought just maybe there is an easy fix for this rather then sending it in. The gobos... i just wanted to know of several differnt places to find some good gobos.Thanks Again jingles!
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Re: Audio
Thanks jingles. I don't understand why I have an elation light with a mic on it and elation software and the software does not have control for the mic. The book does not have anything about audio, except audio analyst. Anybody know anything that might help?
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Re: Out of sync Power Spot 250
It really does not make any sense. Have you tried addressing it the same as one of the other Power Spot 250's? This way you know if its the light or the controller?
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Re: RSER message
Hi Evolution. RSER This message informs you that one of the fixture function wasn’t able to do its reset correct (magnetic sensor, stepping motor, driver on the PCB, cables, etc.). Repair the defect and start the fixture again. When a fixture starts up, it goes through a calibration process to make sure all system are good. It tests every motor to make sure it works. So the light has a color wheel motor, gobo wheel motor, shutter/dimmer motor, pan motor, tilt motor etc. etc. One of these...
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Re: Audio
Kkiger, So the DLED 36 have a mic for stand alone mode. When you don't use a DMX controller it has microphone mode. But when you plug it in to a controller.. microphone mode goes away. The CMY zoom had music trigger as well. But when you select this option you need to crank up the music. These functions are found in the light not the software.
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Re: RSER message
Ok i plugged in the light today and well it starts doing its self check and then it stops and the readout says RST and thats all it does.Now taht i think about it...maybe it never said RSER..Anywho..the message right now is RST.Any ideas??
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Re: Out of sync Power Spot 250
Ok guys, I set up my lights last night and that one light is doing the same thing.I tried addressing it with an address of a fixtures that does center the way it should and it still didnt work...it stayed the same.I still use the light like that but it looks kinda wack cause it dosnt move in sync with the other lights.I have full control of it other wise (color, pan ,tilt, gobo etc.)but its just out of sync with the other lights on all the preset movements? Any ideas?? Thanks Again Sergio
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Re: Out of sync Power Spot 250
hmmm. No i dont no where to find that but do you thinkit would be that? Cause even when i'm starting a new page and it ask me if all the lights are on and centered, all the other lights are centered but that one light. Sergio
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Re: Easy Stand Alone SW
i believe im not 100% sure but u can click on a scene that is not playing and hit ctrl and alt at the same time as u click it. it will allow u to edit that scene and i don't think it will be viewable. look and see what color the street light is on when u click on it. this make sense? peace! jingles.
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Re: Help with buying the best controller
Thanks. now, as far as lightning..i've got not very much experience. i'm trying to light up a stage which is 30ftx20ft. my setup will be, 8 par cans on the back, 2 scanners on the back each one on the sides, 3 colorplash jrs on each side of the front towards the band an the other 2 scanners in te front facin each other, so they'll cover the band and the audience... what do you think? will this give me a nice coverage, im specially concern with the coverage of the LEDs.. don't know if theyll...
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Re: Help with buying the best controller
.. looks like i'm up for a good show. the problem will be hanging the light, since the ceiling is 60 ft .. and cant really count on a truss that high. Nevertheless, my main concern is if the LEDs will do the job, but as it showed in the video ( by the way thanks for the time spent) seems that they'll do just fine. i was thinkin on hanging 4 LEDS on the front corners of the stage, using regular 'trees', the rest on the back, aiming at the drums, and guitar and bass players... hanged by a 15ft...
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Re: Design 36 LED
My units are 6 channels like the manual says. 1= red 2= green 3= blue 4= FX 5= strobe 6= dimmer .I have had them on an Avolites Pearl, a strand 550, a Elation Magic 260 , a dove systems IQ512 and a Baxter systems pocket console. I love the light and am using them on a bunch of shows but as far as the internal programs go they are not performing in a manor that is suitable of a professional quality unit. Is it possible to upgrade the chip to function in seven channel mode? I also have 6 of...
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Re: Compatibility Issue solved.
Mike, This might be a stupid question but have you addressed the units and the dimmers so that they overlap addresses? Dimmer DMX address 1 along with one of the scans If they overlap they will act like they are carping out when you use an attribute in a moving light. Dimmer unit 1 address =1 Unit 2 address=5 scan 1 address =9 and scan 2 address=15… The magic 260 will allow you to chose what the start address is for each fixture.
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Re: Compatibility Issue solved.
Hmmm.. It sounds like you are having data issues. This means that either one of the cables is not working well. or 1 light or dimmer has a bad output. Here is what I recomend. Try connecting one thing at a time. 1 dimmer, then 1 light, 1 dimmer then 1 light I think you will find the problem this way. As you connect each dimmer, make sure you bring intensities to 100% before you connect the next light. When you find the problem, change the cable. And if all the cables are good, then change...
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Re: Design 36 LED
That just explains channel issues, not the strobing with internal programs and stand alone. The revision of the manual is from 12/06, and the 7 channel list is from 5/07, so the manual has yet to be updated for 7 channels or 6 channel lights are still being made/sold. What I stated is merely what was in black and white in front of me and what was sent with the product. It is also quite possible that PU lighting has an older, 6 channel version of the light and not the 7 channel. I know that...
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Re: Design 36 LED
I have a great idea Jingles why dont you tell us how to put them in seven channel mode. My options are 3 and six and it does not matter how you address the control if the light can not be put in seven channel mode itself. I am standing by to buy 20 more units but it is now a long stand by.
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Re: Replacing my controller
Dan, I'm not sure if it's the same one....see below,but Centerstage is a good company to work with: http://cgi.ebay.com/ELATION-SHOW-DESIGNER-2CF-DMX-LIGHT...ZphotoQQcmdZViewItem Good Luck,Gary