Trying a new external controller: Axiom 61

i tried to get it to work but couldnt cause i dont really understand midi, did you get it to work? also im looking at getting the APC 40 and you say it doesnt work?

Didn't you ask for the midi map for the APC 40 in another thread? I still have it if you want to try it.
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yes i really need that map, i just got the apc 40 and want to try it out, can you send it to roof-axis@earthlink.net

thanks!

Here you go. http://db.tt/FsLYwl
What you need to do is once the zip is downloaded open it up and copy all the contents in the zip to C:drive/SL2006/Common/Console
And then launch compu live and then it should appear in the midi selection for choosing a midi device/map.
I do know something stuff is not mapped for this unit. I cannot remember what though. give it a shot.
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it was actually in my software update but it doesnt have anything mapped out midi wise. do i need to do that myself somehow or should is there a file for it or am i doing it wrong? by the midi device selection thing you mean the console window?

Yes sorry console window. And you have to map it. nothing in compu live comes pre mapped. The reason for this being if it is pre mapped it already has buttons pre made for you but you program them. Well with compu you have to create the button then program them. This is why you have to assign your scenes and switches or whatever to the midi buttons or faders. Make sense?
to assign a scene or switch to a midi button simply shift right click the button select assign to midi to midi controller and select the trigger type.
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yea i know that but when i go and do that then go and select which fader or button i want it to be assigned to it says the midi command hasent been assigned in the console window. it has no midi data assigned to the buttons unlike all the other profiles. am i missing a file or do i have to figure out all the midi and map out the actual midi in the console window before selecting scenes and stuff and trying to link them to the controller. it shows its hooked up but when i move faders on the apc40 they dont move on the virtual apc40 on the program

Make sure the APC is set to it's default settings. I don't have one by me to test with. I'll do my best to look into it.
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Originally posted by Roof Axis Pro:
yea i know that but when i go and do that then go and select which fader or button i want it to be assigned to it says the midi command hasent been assigned in the console window. it has no midi data assigned to the buttons unlike all the other profiles. am i missing a file or do i have to figure out all the midi and map out the actual midi in the console window before selecting scenes and stuff and trying to link them to the controller. it shows its hooked up but when i move faders on the apc40 they dont move on the virtual apc40 on the program

Roof,

So this may not be the best help but JC (wheresJC) sent me an email with some tips that I can probably forward to you. I just havent been in front of my board since he sent it to me a week ago (pathetic on my part, I know.). BUt anyway, he has had a lot of success with Akai controllers synced with Compulive. If youd like, I can send you his tips and see if they work for you, since I dont know the next time Ill be able to try it out. You can shoot me your email @ EppLeyBeN at G male dot com. The good news is that from what he tells me, this does work. So hopefully we can figure it out!

And I also am facing your problems. Able to technically assign it the way Im supposed to, but there is no real time movement from software to controller and vice versa. The only thing that works is that the MIDI map on the software retains the function. The controller remains unaffected. Frustrating, but hopefully solveable!

Could I get either one of you to link me to the PDF manual of the APC 40 that has all the technical mappings of the unit? If I can get this info I maybe able to get my dev. to re do the map and possibly have it work a little better than it does now.
Thanks guys let me know.
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i couldnt find a manual for it online anywhere, which seems weird.that would be great though if you could get that done for us.

<headyhiker> yea please send me those tips at roof-axis@earthlink.net, and damn im hoping to get this to work, its the perfect controller for the way i run my live shows.

Well I could see, if he can maybe update it. it's the same dev that made it before. But I would need a manual before he can do anything and if no one can find it then we might be out of luck.
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dang, do we need the manual for the midi commands? i think they keep that private so that it only works with ableton but im not sure. i just saw that the apc40 was an option in the console window and figured it worked with it

i found this website if it helps but im not sure its for what we need
http://createdigitalmusic.com/...s-and-the-handshake/

My dev needs to know the midi data's like Cc# etc in order to properly map it for you all.

ok ill try and find it. if not is there anyway i could manually do it or would i need to know that info anyways

Well to create your own midi map for any midi controller and even a DMX desk. you will have to use the EasyConsole.exe located in the SL2006 folder. the Easy console is a program that allows you to create your own midi map and virtual midi console for the program. I personally do not know how to use this program.
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ok keep me updated thanks

You guys make this too hard. I had my MIDI controller working in less than an hour.

It seems you've made it as far as getting the software to see the MIDI data so here's shortcut you don't need a custom MIDI map.

"This Midi Command has not yet been assigned in the Console...blah blah blah"

Open the Console Window.

Right-Click Header and choose Behringer_BCF2000_big_10presets.

Choose a page other than 1 (tabs on bottom of screen)

Right-Click a Button, Knob, or Fader in the console window. (Does not matter, they all work the same in the software)

The MIDI/Command Screen will open. If there is No Command in the Command line, then move the fader/knob/button/note you want to patch. (This will patch MIDI notes as MidiCC values so if they are not on different MIDI Channels, the Notes will be a flash value for the MIDI CC of the same number.)

Now you're patched.


A handful of MIDI CC values are patched into the big_10presets so you won't have to do this for every channel you patch.

Take advantage of creative Channel assignments. MIDI has 16 Channels of 127 CC and 127 Notes.

I have used Akai MPD32s where you can change the Channel and Note values onboard, providing another level of console patching, very useful.

wow that was too easy. thanks so much!

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Jc, what are you "bumping"? Are you waiting for a response from someone at Elation about something? Let me know.
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In another post xoticpt was asking for MIDI help.

I wanted him to see this post, that's all.

no worries, just helping out.

ohh ok cool. Thanks.