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Re: Has anyone made a profile for Design spot 250 yet?

perfectmixsoundinc ·
Thanks, I was able to locate one dated -Thursday, July 20, 2006, 7:02:00 PM. So I think I ok, I need to load it and check it. But please go ahead and send what you have I would like to see if its the same thing. Perfectmixsound@yahoo.com Thanks again for your response!
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Re: Help with buying the best controller

Jingles8302 ·
what is the trim height? like how far up are they being hanged and howfar out are they projecting? let me know these details and i can help some more. let me try to do a nice lil 3D set up and you can let me know if it is close ok? so the stage os 30 feet wide 20 feet deep?
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Re: Design 36 LED

Jingles8302 ·
PU about ur previos question i believe all DLED36's have 7 channel capabilities. u just have to address them in 7 channel mode. now are you running all 20 of these with no DMX controler or are you using a dmx controler if so which one. try adressing them in 7 channel each and see if u have the master dimmer function on ch. 7. peace! jingles.
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Re: Design 36 LED

pulighitng ·
I have a great idea Jingles why dont you tell us how to put them in seven channel mode. My options are 3 and six and it does not matter how you address the control if the light can not be put in seven channel mode itself. I am standing by to buy 20 more units but it is now a long stand by.
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Re: I Can't Decide!!!!

elationpro ·
Hi Choirboy, 2400Watts is exactly 20 amps. the DP-DMX20L can only handle 15 amps or if you change the power cord to a 12gauge cord, then it can do the full 20 amps. I would recommend the following. CYBER PACK - 20 AMPS 2400WATTS ETL APROVED DP-640B - 40 AMPS 4800 WATTS UL APROVED. Best regards,
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Re: Hey Guys!!! I'm Back . . . again

tylerherron ·
Hey John, James told me to tell about this. It is a quick story that I experience on tour. Our lighting guy is 16 (yes they put a 15 and 16 year old in charge of all that equipment, scary huh?) He really isn't a lighting guy he just knows how to run the software. He really just wants to play in a band. Anyways for awhile I have been learning from him, but now it is different. Since I've been on these forums as well as the ADJ forums I have learned ALOT. Well at one of our shows we had the...
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Re: Magic 260 Issues

colorpalv10 ·
Surpized? Ha, auto correct will probably start to fail after 20+ hours of the light being outside. The auto correct sensor will start to fail with even the slightest-bit of humminity. It will be a tease too, if you pull the lights inside overnight, auto correct might start to work for awhile and as soon as you put them back up outside... failure. Always leave auto correct off. Good Call GFuller. -B
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Re: Hey Guys!!! I'm Back . . . again

tylerherron ·
Yeah I live in a small town called Bodcaw, Arkansas. It is about 20 miles from Hope. That is where Bill Clinton and Mike H. (i dont know how to spell his last name) were born! jthtiger
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Re: black lights

serraava ·
Continuing on now: The buzzing noise is known as lamp sing, it's caused by the power being turned on and off really fast. The way this is fixed is more expensive dimmers have what is known as a choke after the SCR so the power change is as dramatic as on/off. The better the quality of dimmer, the less lamp sing you will get. Now why non-dim isn't really non-dim. Despite you setting a dimmer to non dim, either via the pack or the console, the power still passes through the SCR and choke. So,...
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Re: Demo Download?

rain ·
WHEW - Im a bit overwhelmed but I think its because Im on a tiny notebook. Gotta hook up to a couple of 20" flat panels to get all these windows open. Will the demo let me put the 3D model you made in it? Client wants to use Design Spot 250 (2), DLED 36 (8), DLED MH (2) and Im working on getting him to use the software over the ShowDesigner board. (I'm also trying to get him to drop the DLED fixtures in favor of Acclaim X-EYE HD lights too.. about 12 of them) Will the demo let me put these...
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Re: Design 36 LED

pulighitng ·
Wow this is great. I have not moved forward on my next order of LED lighting yet so this news also helps get me off the fence. I would need 20 chips to replace old units. Now if you tell me that I can get a smaller beam angle with the units and some diffusion filters for my Design 60 I might just hug you. Thank you very much.
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Re: Design 36 LED

elationpro ·
Hi PU.. Believe me, I am also glad our R&D department jumped on it. I just wished they would have told me, instead of telling me they couldn't. We will have lens kits for them as well, but it looks like a 15 and 45 degree kit. I know they are working on an 8 or 12 degree lens kit, but nothing yet. FYI.. Price on the DLED 36 went down a few dollars so you'll be able to get a better price, and we are introducing the DLED 108IP, which is a DLED 36 with K2 Leds, and IP65 rated. Send me an...
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Re: dxm operator pro

serraava ·
32 max is pushing it. I generally start having problems with LEDs at 8 fixtures, depending on length of the run and fixtures in question. Dimmers, I daisy chain those things forever and they don't care, and I am talking racks upon racks upon racks. Movers, depends on the brand and length of cable in question. Some days it's 16, others it's 20, sometimes I can only get 6 on before the 7th starts acting up. If your last fixture in line is acting funny, and a terminator isn't helping, chances...
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Re: Is there a 250 spot that will mix color like this?

elationpro ·
bdunard, Yes, a wash will be about from 40 brighter than a spot. You have a lot more light being projected along a bigger beam of light. However, that's all a wash fixture does.. color change.. but the beam of light it projects is impressive. Most rigs require a 1 to 1 ratio where you have 1 wash to every spot. So if you have 8 Spots you should also have 8 washes. But with the Frost filter of the Design Spot's it helps resolve not having to buy so many washes. Still the wash effect of a...
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Re: Is there a 250 spot that will mix color like this?

bdunard ·
Question regarding the best way to organize scenes. I will have 20 or so scenes. I will have 20 or so switches that I can press at any given time to give my scenes a different look with gobos, prisms, dimmer fx editor chases, cmy fx editor chases, etc.... I see that when I save a scene it puts a button that set of fixtures. If I make a scene that use three pages (say design wash 250, dled 36, and generic dimmer) where should I save that button for that scene. It shouldn't just go on the...
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Re: What are some other uses for moving heads at weddings?

serraava ·
Well, it depends. The distros I use tap off of 6/4 or 4/4 line with a hubbel. Good for 6 20 amps. It isn't all that heavy or bad. Now 2 ought and 4 ought especially, no one wants to lug that around .
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Re: What are some other uses for moving heads at weddings?

bdunard ·
The power distro that I built has 5 20 amp circuits and 4/4 cable. Maybe I could add one more circuit to it and get a hubbell connector. The problem is getting someone to tie it in. Do you have a link to the hubbell that you are using? Are you talking about a single hubbell connector that will take 4/4 copper? I would be very interested in seeing it as it would make a few thing easier for me.
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Re: Wireless DMX problem

elationpro ·
Hi guys, The WDMX uses 2.45Ghz which has nothing to do with any upcomming auctions.. The Auctions are for frequencies not yet being used.. so this leaves the 2.45Ghz free. Elation decided to partner up with wireless solutions.. Wireless solutions is a swedish bases company that has the WDMX trademark and have been perfecting the WDMX for over 20 years. So although the WDMX is new to Elation, it has already been industry tested for 20+ years. For Licklider, I found that if you turn on the...
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Re: ADJ X-Move LED moving head...will there be an elation version soon?

elationpro ·
haha.. You made a great choice my freind. No LED moving heads will compare to Design Spot 250.. maybe in 2013.. maybe. Anyways.. its 20 1watt LED's really close together on one circuit board.. I have not seen it yet, but I confirmed it was 20 1watt LED's on a square grid.. Something like that. Best regards,
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Re: ADJ X-Move LED moving head...will there be an elation version soon?

Jingles8302 ·
jon allow me to interject here. the X-series of lights uses a 1 20 watt WHITE LED not RGB. ADJ had decided to go with a white led to maintain even light output regardless of the color. so those are not RGB lights. they still have a color wheel in them. sincerely,
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Re: ADJ X-Move LED moving head...will there be an elation version soon?

Jingles8302 ·
well it is a 20 watt led. its just one bulb. not 20 bulbs. lol. wel se where the future takes us. lol. hows compu treating ya? sincerely,
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Re: ADJ X-Move LED moving head...will there be an elation version soon?

Jingles8302 ·
well here is what the page says. "LED TECHNOLOGY BREAKTHROUGH! The X-Move LED Hi-Tech Moving Head features a 20-Watt white LED for a hard edge beam that will project gobos and solid colors. Now you can enjoy the look of a traditional halogen or discharge lighting effect with a fraction of the power draw (44W) and without the hassle of changing out the light bulbs (LEDs rated at 50,000 hours)."
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Re: ADJ X-Move LED moving head...will there be an elation version soon?

ebaclights ·
I think Jon was correct when he said there are 20 1 watt leds on a circuit board. They do not make a single 20 watt led... If they did, ADJ would not be the first ones to have it. The highest wattage led ive seen was 5 watts.
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Re: ADJ X-Move LED moving head...will there be an elation version soon?

Jingles8302 ·
Well they are due out in may i believe. i was told by our product specialist it was in fact a 20 watt white led. so i emailed him and ill give you all answers as i get em. sincerely,
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Re: Elation stage setter 8

serraava ·
First question, did you ruin the controller. The answer is no. If anything, you ruined the power supply, but that is also doubtful. You are talking 6 watts vs 3 watts, which is not a lot of power. Second question, just plug and play. You said they have been doing it for a while now, so I am sure you are still fine. After that, I think all your other questions are answered. Must components are capable of handling sightly dynamic loads. For example, almost everything can work on a load from...
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Re: more easyshow screwups

nickcarbone ·
i found my problem! the cursor!!! the drawing and scrolling with the cursor!! being that the onboard video card is sub par, the drawing of the cursor during playback was dragging. i disabled the option for drawing and scrolling and now it works fine... also took about 20% of my cpu usage. good to know!
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Re: design 108

serraava ·
Depends on what they are fighting against. When I used them for a back wash on the set for Assassins, they were fine. In dark bars, they are also fine when using other LEDs, 250w movers, 500w\600w pars and/or S4 Pars lamped 575w or Opti Pars lamped 575w. Generally, all these things are back, side, and/or ground effects and the DLED36s light the stage just fine from the front. When pitting them against S4 lekos from anything more then 20-25', forget it. No lenses mean you can't get the beams...
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Re: design 108

serraava ·
Doubtful. If the Impression run about 180w worth of LEDs can go color for color to a 575w discharge, I think the DLED108 will edge out over a 250w discharge. 250/575=.43; 108/180=.6. I know the math isn't as simple as that thanks to differences in the color temperatures of the discharge lamps, but it gets the general idea across. The DLED108 in theory will be about 20% brighter color for color over the 250w. Things to remember about the higher color temperature of the 250w lamp is that it...
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Re: Compu Live Question

ebaclights ·
Thanks... Now on the subject of the wall controller using the Compu Box. Why doesnt Elation release a simple push button controller to work with this system? I think this would be a HUGE hit with churches who have there house lighting tied into Compu. Sure you can make your own for 20 bucks, but it seems like Elation could make one and slap there name on it to help people who do not know how, or that its even possible to do it. I have done it in 2 churches, and it works great. Justin
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Re: Compu Live Question

ebaclights ·
Ok, I found what I believe John is talking about. http://www.nicolaudie.com/main.php?id_page=28 It is the same list price that he stated. It does look nice but its still overkill from what I am talking about. It is a self contained wall mount DMX controller much like the AR-32. It can be programmed with the Easy Stand Alone software, and act as a dmx usb dongle for Sunlite/Compu. So basically it is like an Easy Stand Alone box in a fancy touch panel for the wall. I dont think you guys...
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Re: Noobie question..

Jingles8302 ·
Rick welcome to the forums. if you want to run dmx led lights on the S.S. 24 you are really gonna need a larger controller. you CAN use DMX lights with the S.S. 24 but are limited to only 24 channels. each dmx led par is about 5 dmx channels. which means 4 of those leds if you like them to be run individually will take up about 20 dmx channels. if you give me your email i can send you a PDF document about the basics and how to run DMX. my email is jamesk AT Elation lighting DOT COM so send...
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Re: Haze question.

elationpro ·
Again.. Serra is right on it.. Whenever I use the X-310.. I always run it between 10 and 17% continuos. Over 20% and that thing is blasting. I also agree with EBAC... don't use FLG. Actually FLG is a fluid from Antari that we don't import. Elation makes X series Fluid. X-Fog X-Fog Pro X-Fog Ice X-Haze Oil X-Haze H20 X-Bubble X-Snow All I can say is that this is the fluid I use, and wouldn't recomend a fluid I've never used on the X-310II. Maybe EBAC and Serra have used different fluids on...
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Re: Programming Existing Scene Colors w/in a New Scene (CL06)

matchless1 ·
Jingles, Yes that is effectively what I'm asking. I can use the color manager, but I hope you can understand how much longer that will take: 1 scene = 20 steps x 16 PAR cans per step x 2 colors per step x 3 DMX values per color. 1 scene could take upwards of an hour when I'm talking about a lot of steps and lot of different colors. If what I'm asking is not possible though, I suppose that is what I'll have to do. You know how when you create a Cycle, you can just select the Scenes that make...
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Re: LED diffusion

serraava ·
So you are looking for something very thick like an Octo Strip covering then. Diffusion won't help much. Getting it away from the LEDs more will help eliminate individual LEDs though. As for color shadows: This is 2 DLED 36s 44" away from the wall, 28" apart from each other. The speaker stands are 15" away from the wall and 2" in diameter. The DLED on the left has the stock diffusion filter in it, the one on the right does not. As you can see, without the diffusion, the DLED increases in...
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Re: COMPULIVE: Quirks or bugs, and some recommended Enhancements.

esteban ·
BUGS On Easyshow, the time line will slow down at 3:20 into the sequence and catch back up to itself around 3:42 ish It drags behind about a second or two, which throws all my cues off. Here is the strange thing. It does not happen all the time. And another problem that has started happening, is that easy show will run into an error and shut down. compu stays open only easyshow will shut down. I have used this software to run this show for the past three years and every year there seems to...
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Re: COMPULIVE: Quirks or bugs, and some recommended Enhancements.

elationpro ·
BUGS On Easyshow, the time line will slow down at 3:20 into the sequence and catch back up to itself around 3:42 ish It drags behind about a second or two, which throws all my cues off. .ses = easy show archive file. Whenever an easy show program is created and saved. it saves as an .ses The reason your file is needed is because our software developers need to see exactly what your referring to. Its simple for you to recreate it becasue you know where your problem is, but if we try to...
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Re: Resetting a Scene Setter 24CH Dimmer Console

surgeprotech ·
Alex, This is how to restore the password to factory default. Press and hold the following three buttons, "Record", "Edit" and "Hold". Then sequentially press FLASH keys 5, 10, 15, 20 and release the first three buttons. Also make sure that you have the correct power adapter. Let me know what happens
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Re: DMX OPERATOR CONTROLLER... Strobe help please...

redx ·
COLORKEY LED Par 64 10mm V2 6 channel dmx and Deliya par 64 led 4 channel dmx. One at a time does the same thing. Singularly on a 2 foot DMX cable from the OPERATOR. Ive run speed and fade variations during and after playback still the same.It slows down even more when fade time is set to 0. It has an uneven strobe effect if fade is above 0. I am seeing about 15-20 fps when in program mode. I then either record the scene and remove the program button and the speed slows down to about 5 fps.
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Re: Power Question

serraava ·
Hi Matt and welcome to the forums. What types of fixtures are you plugging into the controller? You say 4-8, but each of those lights might be 2000w a piece (doubtful). The other thing is it is possible the outlet is a 15 amp outlet and not a 20 amp outlet. According to standard, 20 amp Edison has one on the prongs at a 90 degree angle with regards to the other. See this image for what exactly I am talking about. Almost no one follows this standard, but it is possible, especially in newer...
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Re: Hazer/Fazer....confusion :confused:

elationpro ·
Your on the right track. I believe X-310II is what your looking for. The other great features this machine has is it already comes with on board timer and DMX digital module!! this is awesome. It also features a blue LED fluid indicator, as soon as fluid levels are low it starts to blink telling you to add more fluid. And to be clear the X-310II is mainly a fog machine producing a haze-type effect. A haze machine runs continous, the minute you turn on a hazer the compressor starts and you...
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Re: Hazer/Fazer....confusion :confused:

studio42 ·
I'm liking what I'm hearing a lot. The biggest issue now is money and other decisions. Personally, outside of the high current draw, I'm really pleased with what I'm hearing. Fogger and hazer in 1 unit. Less to lug. If you're giving me numbers of 8 hours at 50% utilization, well, I doubt that would ever cause me problems. Setting the unit up 15 minutes ahead of time is no problem as I'll be there 3 hours early. The producer's fog machine is 15 minutes of warm-up time, so that seems to be the...
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Re: Hazer/Fazer....confusion :confused:

serraava ·
Oh, forgot about the ground fog myself as well. Sorry. I have two different types of ground fog units, an Antari ICE-101 and an Aquafogger 3300. Now, speaking from experience, the only way you are going to get real low-lying fog is via dry ice. Fog chillers aren't nearly as good. The ICE-101 is a fogger with a chiller. The fog sticks to the ground, but as soon as someone or something moves through it or the wind blows, it turns into fog, meaning it raises up and stops hugging the ground. The...
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Re: Platinum Spot

serraava ·
Ahhh, makes more sense now, just a shorter arc source lamp. Make the point source smaller, make the light brighter. It would also be interesting to say that this new lamp is more efficient then plasma since they have Luminaire Efficacy Rating great then 90%, while arc lamps are normally around 55%. Since I have no specs on the new lamp, I can't calculate an LER for it, but I am sure it is higher then 55%. Ballasts still kill the efficiency of arc lamps and always will. Plasma likewise keeps...
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Re: Firmware fail on Magic 260

RSM ·
If firmware is corrupt and 260 not responding: Press and hold function buttons 1, 10, 20 and 24 and turn this unit on. Then send file for the Magic 260 program with the u-link. If you need firmware 1.04 (1.02) send message.
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Re: Magic 260 Controller Failure

RSM ·
If you can not add or select fixtures you've lost your light fixture profile. If the internal battery dies (small round battery like in a watch) and you turn power off you'll loose this profile. ULink (upload) new profile. Can find instructions on Elation support Downloads. If the 260 cycles and does not load/boot up, then its a firmware issue. If firmware is corrupt and 260 not responding: Press and hold function buttons 1, 10, 20 and 24 and turn this unit on. Then send firmware file for...
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Re: Z1200II controller problem

studio42 ·
Well, as long as your results are acceptable, then I guess all is good. I'm one of those guys though, who despite how mellow I may seem, anger me and I'm on the horn with a VP or CEO or the board of directors screaming and yelling. Let's put it this way: a screw job AT&T did on me has resulted in me MOVING $20 Million dollars per year of business OFF AT&T's network. But I'm not bitter! That's recurring revenue NOT hitting AT&T anymore, and those are not accurate numbers. Total...
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Re: DP-DMX20L dimmer ... is it 20A or 15A max?

studio42 ·
It's rated for 15 amps total. Check your plug. Are the two blades straight? If so, that's a 15-amp connector. Is one blade at a right angle to other? That's 20 amps. Yes, I know, they are both basically the same and chances are the cable itself is rated for 20 amps anyways. Worse case situation is blow a fuze or pop a breaker.
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Re: DP-DMX20L dimmer ... is it 20A or 15A max?

studio42 ·
I don't doubt you in the least. Furman even makes an AC power conditioning product rated at 20 amps, and they know the problem is so prevalent that they even state that they won't honor the warranty if there are "Field modifications" made. My attitude is that I'm protecting 15 amps worth of gear, so I want the unit rated at 15 amps, mainly so I can pop my breaker instead of the house breaker. If anyone has seen a 20-amp Edison outlet, they'll note it's completely backwards compatble. So it's...
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Re: DP-DMX20L dimmer ... is it 20A or 15A max?

serraava ·
Actually, there are 20 amp only Edison outlets out there. Why, I have no idea. They are few and far between but I have seen them. The one that comes to mind is Pfizer's (use to be Wyeth's) Collegeville Campus here in PA. In Campus Commons Dining area, there is one 20 amp outlet and the rest are 15/20 amp right above it. Why it is there, I have no idea. But again, its annoying because I have to drop mult down from upstairs for more power often.
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Re: DP-DMX20L dimmer ... is it 20A or 15A max?

studio42 ·
20-amp only? That must be reserved for some specific bit of hardware, best I could guess. That would make more sense in a hospital. I've never seen a 20-amp only outlet, always the typical 15/20 that has the T on the neutral for "compatibility". One thing I do these days with new venues is I have one of those pen-type devices that can detect a live circuit. If I have a live circuit, next thing I do is meter it and document that on a per outlet basis. I've only run into 1 problem: an outlet...
 
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