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Hi folks.

I am considering purchasing a Magic260 controller and I have some questions.

This may seem dumb, but on reading the manual it seems to imply that a scene can only contain one type of fixture, and each fixture must be set the same. Can I save scenes where different fixtures have different values? For instance, Scanner1 would be blue, Scanner2 would be red, and DMX Moonflower would be green? If so, how would I accomplish this?

I am planning to use Chauvet MinSpots, as well as some other LED DMX Effects. I am OK with using Generic profiles and forgoing the built in presets if need be.

However, as I am a programmer and good with text files or even binaries, is there a way I can create my own profiles? If so, is there a spec or some type of instructions available?

Thanks in advance for any help!
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Hi Davey,

you misread something.. of course you can use different fixtures and values to generate one scene. Keep reading the manual in the recording a scene section.

Regarding creating profiles.. this is also possible through a software thats included with the console when you purchase it.
http://www.elationlighting.com/pdffiles/magic260-setup109.zip

When you load this program you will see a button called Fixture edit. This small option allows you to create your own profile and load it into the console.

Best regards,
Hi! Thanks a bunch for your reply. I am not sure what I am reading wrong. Let me post the relevent manual section for reference:

quote:

Section 16: Record Scenes

This next section will take you through the necessary steps to record scenes. 1,152 scenes can be stored into Magic 260’s memory via 48 pages. The 24 Function buttons should be used to store and playback scenes when the “SCENE” button is active or selected. Scenes can contain factory movements or preset points and can be individually named. One scene can play at a time. This means each time a new scene is
selected, the old scene will automatically switch OFF.

(1) Press the FIXTURE button so its green LED illuminates ON solid.

(2) Press the FUNCTION button or buttons that correspond with the fixture or fixtures that you wish to include into your scene. The relevant FUNCTION buttons should be flashing red and the
fixture attributes should display in the LCD. Note: all selected fixtures should be of the
same type. If different fixture types are selected, the last selected fixture attributes
will be on in the LCD and channel setting will not match.

(3) Adjust the MASTER fader to 10. This brings all selected fixtures dimmer channels up to 100%. If your fixture incorporates a Shutter channel, set it to Open or value 255 by turning the relevant DATA wheel clockwise. Selected fixtures should have visible light emitting from the front lens at this point. If you do, please move on to step #4. If not, turn data wheel #5 clockwise to search for the Shutter. If there is no Shutter channel, turn data wheel #5 to search for the Gobo channel as this is the channel that may be used as the shutter channel and turn or press the relevant DATA wheel to Open, Spot or Gobo1. If not, please refer to your fixture user manual for more information.

(4) Use the DATA wheels and joystick to set a desired look. i.e. – Pan/Tilt, color, gobo, etc… Turn DATA wheel #5 to view next four fixture channels. Once you’ve set your desired scene proceed to step (5).

(5) Press the RECORD button. Its green LED should be flashing.

(6) Press the SCENE button. Its green LED should also be flashing.

(7) If you do not want to name your scene, please go to step 8. If you want to name your scene, turn data wheel #1 clockwise or counter clockwise to find your desired character and turn DATA wheel #5 to move the cursor over. Once again, use DATA wheel #1 clockwise or counter
clockwise to find your desired character and turn DATA wheel #5 to move the cursor over.
Repeat this step until you’ve named your scene.

(8) Turn DATA wheel #3 to incorporate a Fade Time to your scene. Fade times will adjust in
increments of 1 second. If you wish to get tenths of a second resolution, press the FINE button so its’ LED illuminates ON solid green. Turning DATA wheel #3 will now adjust in increments of one tenth.

(9) Turn DATA wheel #4 to the page that you wish to save your scene to. Note: if there is a
FUNCTION LED illuminated ON solid, it means there is already a scene stored there.
Unless you want to record over the existing scene, it is recommended that you store
to a button that has its’ LED OFF.

(10) Press a FUNCTION # button 1-24 to store your scene. The display will momentarily read “The scene has been recorded”.

(11) Repeat steps 1-10 to record additional scenes.


Ok, I understand why in Step 2 it says all fixtures should be of the same type, because you are setting values for all those fixtures, and their channels would conflict.

But when I get to Step 5, I have only set one set of values for one group of like fixtures.

A) Do I, before moving to step 5, turn off the fixtures I just set, turn some more on, and continue to build the scene? IOW, if I turn the fixture button back off, will the scene data I just set for the fixture remain?

B) Do I set one set of fixtures, save it to a scene, and then set another set and save it? IOW, does the save function wipe out the previous scene, or is it additive?

C) Or is there some other method I am missing?

Thanks again for your help!
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Ok, I understand why in Step 2 it says all fixtures should be of the same type, because you are setting values for all those fixtures, and their channels would conflict.

But when I get to Step 5, I have only set one set of values for one group of like fixtures.

A) Do I, before moving to step 5, turn off the fixtures I just set, turn some more on, and continue to build the scene? IOW, if I turn the fixture button back off, will the scene data I just set for the fixture remain?

B) Do I set one set of fixtures, save it to a scene, and then set another set and save it? IOW, does the save function wipe out the previous scene, or is it additive?

C) Or is there some other method I am missing?

Thanks again for your help!


Although this post is somewhat old, I thought I would reply in case it helps others. I'm a new owner of the Magic 260, and this was unclear in the manual as well. The manual is rather terse in a number of areas.

I think the easiest answer here is that you can set all your fixtures of any type for a particular scene. I believe the manual is suggesting that you can select multiple fixtures of the same type to set simultaneously. Once you have them set how you want, you deselect the buttons for those fixtures and move on to the next fixture or set of fixtures and do the same thing. Only those fixtures that are selected (LEDs blinking) in the FUNCTION area of the 260 are being set at the time you adjust the values. After all of your fixtures are set, then you can save the scene. I noticed that you don't have to have any FUNCTION buttons active to save the current scene.

mike
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