Plat 5r 17 chan profile help

Do you have another platinum spot scene playing when you try to change colors? Give me some more details as far as what is going on on the fixture page when you try to do this.
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I'm simply programming the scenes by setting positions, gobos, colors...I click the snap color for each scene I create.

you don't really need to click the color snap button. the wheel should snap by default as that channel will have a dmx output of 0. Verify the channel value for the color snap and split channel and let me know.
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The dmx values for the 17 channel profile seem to be correct. Is there a setting on the fixture to set the mode? I see where there are 15 channel and 24 channel modes.

You need to make sure your using 17 channel mode. Take a look at the revisied manual on the website.
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ok I confirmed that the fixtures are set to the standard mode, which should be the 17 channel profile. The values of the profile for the snap feature seem to be correct. But I still can't get the fixtures to snap to color or gobo.

So you can verify that channel 17 is not set too dmx value 30-39?
I am really not sure. I won't be in front of a 5R until maybe sometime next week.
Maybe send me your show file and I'll take a look.
jamesk @ elationlighting dot com
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Gines, can you get someone to test this feature on the Platinum spot 5R

Looking at the profile, channel 17 is 0-19 for color snap, 20 to 29 for split colors, and 30 to 39 for color gobo any.

If I want the color to "snap" from white to yellow, I need to hit the snap button( 0-19) in my software program right?

Yes it should. How exactly are you programming scenes? Do you start from the fixture page or creating empty scenes and then using the scene editor to adjust the dmx channels?

Using Lumidesk, I patch my fixtures, then start building the scene.

Ok well I don't use lumidesk as it is not an elation product so I cant help you with that program. I can say the ssl profile I made for the platinum
Spot 5R is a good working profile. Perhaps you need to contact the makers of lumidesk for some support? I'm not sure.
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yeah I understand that. When you get a chance to test that feature LIVE, please do. And I'll see what I come up with doing more testing, maybe with a hardware controller.

Ok. Someone in our service dept will test probably Monday. Also but if channel 17 is at dmx value of 0 the colors and gobo's should all snap.

I tested last night before my show started...If I don't have a fade time...they snap. If I enter a 2 second fade time then they scroll. This is with activating the snap button and not activating it.

Spoke to another 5r user today who is having the same problem with the snap. He is also a Lumidesk user. I'm going to test using the 24 channel profile. Can someone email it to me? casey at cmbdjs dot com

Does lumidesk use ssl or ssl2?
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http://db.tt/zguuimg
Here is the 24 channel version of the ssl format of the platinum spot 5R.
Let us know how it goes please.
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Originally posted by jingles:
Does lumidesk use ssl or ssl2?
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It uses both, but ss2l2 by default if creating.

Well here is a link to a ssl2 of the 24 channel mode.
http://db.tt/46oYHgs
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CMB we tried out profiles on the platinum spot on the Compu live program and the fixture snapped between gobo's as it should. I think now you may have to contact the makers of lumidesk.
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Originally posted by jingles:
CMB we tried out profiles on the platinum spot on the Compu live program and the fixture snapped between gobo's as it should. I think now you may have to contact the makers of lumidesk.
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Which profiles did you test with?

In the office they used the 17 channel mode ssl profile for the platinum spot 5R. I made that profile.
Today I got a platinum spot to play with and i have used both 17 and 24 channel mode profiles for Compu show which is ssl2 and both the gobo's snapped unless i had the special channel set to color and gobo any. I'm sorry but it has to be something lumidesk is doing or something else that I am unaware. Like i said check the values your outputting if there is a dmx monitor window.
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Lumidesk shows the dmx value for channel 17 to be 9 when the color snap is activated on the profile panel. Is that correct? or should it be 19?

Whatever the manual says for turning color split on and off and also gobo and color wheel split on or off.
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well 9 is just the middle number between 0 and 19, which are the dmx value ranges for the color snap.

so does 9 represent the proper value for the snap? or should it be anything else between 0 and 19?

Should be anywhere between 0-19. 9 is probldblt the default dmx value. So it should snap.
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The Lumidesk dev pointed out that Lumidesk uses SSL2 files...and compu using ssl....any input?

There is no difference. The profiles were made exactly the same way. They are just different file types.

ok, I'm just now finding time to work on this issue. I think I need to clarify what I'm wanting to make sure we're all on the same page.

Let's say my first color is white....and I want my second color to be magenta, which should be somewhere on the other side of the color wheel. When I play the scene back with a fade time of 2 or 3 seconds....another more than 0...the colors snap from one to the other until it reaches the magenta. If I select the color scroll option then they evenly scholl from white to the next and so on until it reaches magenta.

I want it to be able to snap from white straight to magenta.

I've tried a new version of lumidesk and I have tried the 24 channel profile and still get the same function.

Here is a video of what my setup is doing.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AIQ7ejoiGjk

If it is on a color wheel, there is no way to make it snap from white to magenta unless they are right next to each other in the color wheel. If you don't want to see the scroll, you need to write a blackout scene to allow it to change colors once it is blacked out. Just one of those things you have to think about and realize in the back of your mind if you want a cleaner look.

Now if you are looking for it to scroll through, I don't think the PS5R has an indexing option for the color wheel, it just snaps to the position. Try turning on split colors and it might be a bit smoother, but will still snap between split, full color, split, full color, etc.

I think the fade time is applying to the color channel and that will slow down the snap. I am not familiar with lumidesk so if there is a way to not have the color wheel respond to the fade time then that is the nature of the color wheel going through the colors with a fade time on it.
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CMB Attached to this post is a picture of the fade control for the gobo channel I got this from a friend of mine who uses lumidesk.

the part circled in red is what turns the fade on or off for the gobo channel I believe this is also a option in the color wheel section. double check this and let us know.
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If my 12 year old martin mini macs can snap to the next color....then I expect these Plat 5rs to.

I see the disable fade option for the color wheel and will test tomorrow.

Bada Bing Bada Boom....disabling the color fade did the trick. The way those buttons are configured I didn't even notice it, or I might have figured it out on my own. I'm glad it was a simple fix.

Thanks to everyone for chipping in.

Ah okay. Sorry I misunderstood. I thought you were looking for one color to the other without it having different colors in between.

I'm glad you got it! Now you know what the cause was. Have fun.

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Originally posted by CMB:
Bada Bing Bada Boom....disabling the color fade did the trick. The way those buttons are configured I didn't even notice it, or I might have figured it out on my own. I'm glad it was a simple fix.

Thanks to everyone for chipping in.

I was. I wanted it to snap from color 1 to color 5. with the fade time enabled on the color the color wheel would scroll to the second color for the length of the fade. Now it snaps to the second color half way through the movement.

So before, many of my programs looked like just a scroll through all the colors, like a rainbow. Now they won't look like that and will just look like color changes.