Scene fade setup on the dmx op pro

Read page 27 of your manual. I think it addresses your issue. It's not totally clear to me, but it appears to adddress the fade between scenes issue you have, but it is describing this more in regards to chases.

Hitting the blackout button results in an IMMEDAITE blackout. It's how the console is designed. If the above idea works, then if you want a "fade to blackout", you'll need to program your own blackout scene and then set your speed fader and select your blackout scene.

A lot of assumption. Hope some of it works out.

I dont press the blackout button...this is what happens...I press scene 1 to bring up the scene...then I press it again and it just drop out totally without fade...this is what I want to change...as well as the crossfade between scenes...I dont use the chases because I am not sure how they will work for my church service.

Well if you hit the same scene button twice that is the same as blacking out. It's kinda like on then off. There's no fade cause there is nothing to fade too. your telling it to go black and right away.
Sincerely,

is there a way the I create a scene with a fade up and a fade out? If so can you give me the instructions on how to do it...thanks

I personally have never used that DMX OP PRO. sorry. But i do know if you hit the same scene button twice it will just turn it off. I have been trying to get one of my techs to answer your question. However let me check and see if we still have our instructional DVD available to ship out to you.
Sincerely,

Short of making a blackout scene and controlling that via the speed fader, and then selecting that scene, I don't really see any other alternatives.

The manual is quite clear about how the blackout button works, as well as when you hit the scene button a second time, it turns the scene off.

Contra email me your shipping address and i can try to have a instructional DVD sent your way free of charge. My email is
Jamesk at elationlighting dotcom
Sincerely,

I doubt this is possible, but something for ADJ and Elation as well as other companies to consider:

In a few products I work with in IT, I have product emulators, that allow me to work with an emulation of the product without actually having the product itself. Sort of like MyDMX in DEMO mode, but costs about 100 times more. But, like DMX, it's the real deal, except there are "models" I can plug in and tweak to emulation what's going on.

I would like to think it would be possible to do a software ONLY(can't work real-world, it's only a simulation) of various low to mid-range controllers, that includes a basic 3D visualizer and a very narrow range of fixtures it can work with(say, a bank of cans, 1 moving type fixture, 1 other intel and 2 hi-tech FX, such as a centerpiece or something). This isn't a lot to work with, but if it can emulation programming scenes and showing how the console works, that might help steer purchases or at least help guide people to the right product.

What do you think? I bet it isn't worth the development dollars though.

Guys, as an operator it is quite common to set up a Black out scene with a 3-4 sec fade time built in. This would more than likely address his question. I personally don't have experience with this specific controller, however, there must be a way do so. Good Luck, Happy New Year,and thanks to Elation Service and the forum for all of the support in 2009! Gfuller WWW.LiveLighting.com

I'm a audio engineer having to do lighting as well.

Moving from a DMX Operator to MyDMX, one of the whines many users had was "there's no blackout button/key", and many users also were offended at having to make a blackout scene. Gee, it is as simple as clicking the "New Scene" button and then setting a fade time, and 1 loop. Wasn't all that difficult.

From an operator's perspective and not knowing a lot about the higher end consoles or other DMX software packages, I would find it the norm for the operator or designer to program a blackout scene. It just makes natural sense to me.

But the DMX Operator Pro is not a high end console, it's in the lower end of the spectrum. It does have a blackout button, but it's also a "snap to blackout" function. One could just as easily reserve Bank 1, Scene 1 to be the blackout scene. This fixture doesn't give you super precise control over transition speed, but using the speed fader, you can at least have some degree of control from "fast to slow", which is often good enough.

The Orignal Poster is definately not quite happy with how the console works and is trying to ask it to do something that it can do, but requires a bit of thinking outside the box. The problem is that when a new user buys a bit of gear, it doesn't occur to them all that they would really want to do with it, especially when their creativity starts to flow. More experienced users would either know this up front and know how to find answers ahead of time because the retail sales guys can't possibly remember all this stuff.

The more experienced guys have usually moved onto better gear, usually out of necessity. For me, moving from my very affordable DMX Operator to equally affordable MyDMX has really helped me out in multiple aspects of lighting. Don't get me wrong, I'm glad I bought the DMX Operator, but within the course of 2009, I've gone from needing it as a fall-back option, to now recently no longer carrying it and relying only on MyDMX.

thank you guys for all your help, I was able to figure it out, took me like 2 and 1/2 hours of pressing buttons (my favorite thing to do hehe) i just went to go get the mail and guess what I saw, the instructional dvds, thanks Jingles this will help the new users out alot...I am training 4 guys how to use this console for the sunday services. This is the best support I have had in my life. If I were to give a rating for you guys I would give a 10 any day. I will also recommend you guys to all my other lighting techs in theatre!!!

Well, I'm not sure how this affects your favorite activity of pushing buttons. I guess now it will be you're pushing buttons with purpose now!

contraclutch: I also recently purchased the Elation DMX Operator Pro and am having difficulty figuring out how to smoothly transition between scenes.

I noticed in the post above you mentioned that you figured out how to do this after spending 2 1/2 hours of button pushing, but you never gave your instructions on how to do it.

Could you post your instructions on how you determined to fade out smoothly or transition smoothly from one scene to the next?

Thanks man. I appreciate any help you could give.

Your Brother in Christ.

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Originally posted by BillOfHCC:
contraclutch: I also recently purchased the Elation DMX Operator Pro and am having difficulty figuring out how to smoothly transition between scenes.

I noticed in the post above you mentioned that you figured out how to do this after spending 2 1/2 hours of button pushing, but you never gave your instructions on how to do it.

Could you post your instructions on how you determined to fade out smoothly or transition smoothly from one scene to the next?

Thanks man. I appreciate any help you could give.

Your Brother in Christ.

ok this is the way that I did this...press and hold the record button until the green led lights up next to it.

then select one of the 8 scene buttons...

now program your light cue in to this...by setting the scene to what you like...press record...

repeat this for any other remaining scenes that you may have.

now on to setting the fade/speed for your scene cues

press and hold the record button until the green led next to it lights up...

now select one of the eight chase buttons...

then press one of the programmed scenes you recorded in the previous steps...

(hint for this to work with scenes longer than 10minutes...record only 1 step per chase...otherwise after 10minutes it will advance to the next step...)

after selecting your scene that you want to have fade up adjust the speed pot(fader) to your desired setting...and also adjust your fade pot(fader) to your desired fade up time...

then press record. repeat for any remaining scenes you might have...(also you may want to program a blank scene/chase for a fade out to black. rather than having to use the black out button...it has made it easier for us to use the fade to black.)

the only thing that i noticed when doing this on multiple pages was that it would add to the previous pages chase setting...not sure how to fix this yet...but if you only use 8 scenes you should be fine for your service...

also when going from 1 chase to the next deselect the previous chase...

another way you could do this is when you have selected your chase scene...wait for it to totally fade up then select the corresponding scene button(ex. chase 1 press scene 1...only if you programmed it so that scene 1 and chase 1 are the same light setting..)after selecting the corresponding scene button...select your next chase scene button...then press the corresponding scene button...

repeat for the remaining chases that you have...

I hope this helps you alot..

Your Brother in Christ